"Preachers of L.A." Pastor: Show Is Not Designed for Evangelism

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An L.A.-area pastor who will be featured on the upcoming reality show “Preachers of L.A.” says the show is no “evangelical tool” and rather will feature six prominent pastors as “human beings.” In an interview with the Impact Network’s Mark Burns as reported by The Christian Post, Bishop Noel Jones of the City of Refuge Church in Gardena said that there was no evangelism element to the show; instead, he hopes the show will allow people to take preachers off their pedestals and stop seeing them as superhuman.

“My original intention was (for) it to be a tool to help bring the minds of Christian people to the place where they give some balance to who their pastors are and how they deal with their pastors,” said Jones. “The only reason I signed up was to help to reduce the iconoclastic proclivities that church members have about their pastors to the point where if they break any of the rules that the church members are breaking, they completely throw them away.”

The show will debut in the fall on Oxygen and will feature Deitrick Haddon, Bishop Clarence McClendon of Full Harvest International Church, Wayne Chaney of Antioch Church in Long Beach, Bishop Ron M. Gibson of Life Church of God in Christ, and Jay Haizlip of the Sanctuary Church. View the show’s promotional trailer below.

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  • Clint

    Shouldn’t this show be called “Prosperity Preachers of LA”?

    Oh and before you answer with judging, I would like to tell you who will argue with this statement, and say I serve a Savior who speaks truth, who died a terrible horrible death. Why would any minister believe we are supposed to be rich here and than tell it to people when their supposedly savior died penniless.

    • John

      Jesus did not die penniless.

      Did you know for 3 years Judas stole M O N E Y from Jesus?

      Did you also know that the soldiers coveted Jesus clothes so much that they gambled for them?

      Jesus was not poor.

      Sorry to burst your bubble

      • michelle

        @John :There’s nothing wrong with Christian being prosperous . 3 John 1:2 :Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth. However John, it’s true that Jesus was rich but while he was on earth he was made poor for us to be rich. 2corinthians 8:9 :For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich.

        • bernard henderson

          Jesus made us rich in the spirit not in the flesh because we are spiritually bankrupt without Him. We as a people of God have to be very careful on building doctrine on a verse or two. Review the whole context it will help all of us with the Holy Spirit helping us.

          • John

            Your interpretation of that verse is correct. However, being rich in spirit should affect your everyday life. Paul said our inheritance is of benefit not only in the life which is to come but our present life in the flesh.

        • John

          Lol did you read my comment at all?

          This is a good time to bring up what Paul told Timothy Study to show yourself approved!

          Notice that in that verse the operative word is GRACE. Paul isn’t referring to finances. He’s referring to grace. He’s really referring to salvation. On the cross Jesud was stripped of His Sonship & forsaken by God. So that we could be given the riches of His inheritance.

          Learn context. Jesus ministry had plenty of money. The verse you’re referred to has nothing to do with finances.

      • http://FireSpeaks.Blogspot.com/ FireSpeaks

        John Im not sure that you are looking at all of the evidence about the financial condition of Jesus Christ,
        Consider this, if all you owned was a fur coat, and you lived on the street would you call that rich? In Matt 8:20 Jesus says “Foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nest, but the Son of Man hath nowhere to lay His head.

        If you were rich ( and died) would your mother have to live with a friend because she had nowhere else to stay? ( John 19:26)

        Have you forgotten that Jesus said it is easier for a camel to fit through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven
        (Matt 19:23-24)

        Finally, And as for the three years Judas stole for the disciple, I ask you this, how many of us has become rich while people stole from us?

        But there is one more thing I want to show you. In Judges 16:5 we have Delilah offered 11,000 pieces of silver for the secret of Samson’s strength, but Judas was only offered 30 pieces of silver to betray the savior of the world! (Matt 26:16) which also give you an idea of his mindset and the financial condition.

        Furthermore, I think the evidence shows just the opposite of being rich for Jesus.

        • John

          You are interpreting thee Scriptures through your own private lens that ‘prosperity is false’
          instead of interpreting these Scriptures through their proper context.

          You DO NOT interpret Scripture by picking an anti-ideal. When you do so you’re manipulating the Word of God

    • juliemango

      Didn’t Christ become poor so that we might become rich. Now what rich means is another story.

  • http://www.joelhawting.blogspot.com.au/ Joel Hawting

    Oh dear… these kind of shows do absolutely nothing for biblical Christianity. All these shows do is promote a false gospel of excess, material wealth and individualism that Jesus never condoned or promoted. I wonder what John Piper would say to this video? :)

    • Sherri Price

      I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be approving.

  • Igy

    …sad…. Where’s the fear of God?

  • Sherri Price

    Saw a similar show about preachers’ wives just last week. It didn’t just show their humanity, but accentuated pretty despicable character flaws. The show made me sad, angry and pretty sure I’d never want to attend their churches.

  • Bishop Craig E. Soaries

    I concur with other comments that this program has nothing to do with true Christianity. Furthermore the remarks made by Noel Jones are ludicrous. The very nature of the organizations and churches they build and perpetuate is rooted and grounded in a personality driven/cultic environment. It promotes their excessive lifestyles and supports their demi-godlike leadership which they thrive on. Jesus has nothing to do with it.

  • Pjk

    This is called diverting to the worldly affairs. So sorry for these pastors who is called to serve God and people are now want to focus on fashion and tv lifestyle. I as young pastors totally disapprove of this.

  • Min. Miriam Walker

    This is so disgraceful to me! It is people like this that make me not desire to continue in ministry. Nevertheless, if some of us don’t stay true to God what is the world left with?

    • L. Decker

      Sister Walker, the Lord will be coming for His Church soon. When he does, I want to hear “good and faithful servant.” All of us in ministry must continue to keep our eyes on the Author and Perfecter of our faith. Keep ministering the Word.

    • Russell Godsgrace Parker

      It doesn’t matter what others do with their ministry; you stay true to your calling! God bless you!

      • michelle

        amen

  • Elder Karen Craig

    What would you expect? The show is on Oprah’s network.

    • Toni M.

      Umm just FYI the show is on Oxygen network which I’m pretty sure is not owned by Oprah.

      • Russell Godsgrace Parker

        Oprah does own Oxygen!

  • RealtySanta

    Noel Jones said “there is no evangelism element to the show” What’s the purpose then? Thankfully it’s on the O network and will not reach that many. Any time something is advertised as a religious show it affects the Gospel. Why would a preacher be involved if not to further the Kingdom?
    I see not worthwhile value in this show.

    • michelle

      John 12:32- And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”. A man of God should represent Jesus in every way and should not represent themselves. What is the purpose of being a man of God if you are showing the world that you act just like them. And this is the reason why the world doesn’t take us seriously . Stop perverting God’s gospel. Bill Johnson : When you’ve been given the Spirit of God you lose the privilege of claiming, “I’m only human.”

      • John

        Terrific post

  • Harrison

    Well now we have it, not content to display negative images with women, pastor’s wives and children, pastors have joined the rank and file of voyeurism!!! This display of life style is not helpful, positive or sensible Shame of these “men of God” for their blasphemy Shame on Oprah for her greed. Shame on us that we are so starved that we allow anything to be on the airwaves.

  • Saiko Woods

    So, if what we do isn’t to bring the lost to Christ, then it’s DUNG, man-centered and demonically inspired! Not an “evangelical tool”? These people don’t care about the gospel because they’re not representatives of the GOSPEL.

    Also, I’ve contacted all of the castmembers PERSONALLY on Twitter and invited them to appear as guests on my radio show and NONE of them have responded. Jay Hazlip accepted my FB request, gave me his church office number, but has yet to respond to several requests to speak to me about coming on my show.

    I find it rather interesting that people like these RARELY if ever, come on shows that disagree with their prosperity views, but will accept invitations from those who support them in a nanosecond!

    Still waiting Preachers of LA Cast! Let’s have a BIBLICAL DISCUSSION ABOUT YOUR PROSPERITY VIEWS!

    • John

      The problem isn’t that prosperity is a false doctrine. It isn’t. The problem here is what they do with it.

      • http://FireSpeaks.Blogspot.com/ FireSpeaks

        No, the problem is that prosperity IS a false doctrine. That is just what the problem is.

        • John

          Are you ready to learn something or will you stumble forward existing your ideas above the knoeledge of God?

          The 2 main blessings of Abraham were health & prosperity. There are hundreds of examples in the Old Testament.

        • John

          PROVERBS 3:9-10 Honor thy Lord with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase: So shall thy barns be filled with plenty, and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

  • James Bonilla

    world is the world, they are the world.

  • Chuck Warnock

    Great! More mockery of the gospel by compromising “pastors” who are clearly centered on themselves, and want the limelight no matter what.

  • bernard henderson

    This is another terrible example of Pastors in power. Sheep beware your true example is Jesus Christ Himself. The problem with Prosperity Gospel is another Gospel about greed and self. Please for the sake of your own soul study God’s Word. The only one getting rich are the one’s in power (Top of the food chain). The Pastor’s job is to serve God and His people according to the will of God. The more spotlight that’s on a man the less is on Jesus. How in the world can we feel good about living in mansions and Bentley’s and not take anybody in and clothe them. With a house that big you would think foster care wouldn’t have any problem finding space.
    Unfortunately we have many leaders without a backbone to preach against it. It takes God fearing courage to preach the truth. The Bible teaches us to lay our treasure in heaven not earth. You cannot serve two masters. Understand that if you’re a Christian God has entrusted you to use your resources for His Kingdom and not yours. It’s very hard to justify the jets and mansions. As a Pastor if you’re teaching you first must be living it. If I were some of you I might have a second thought and think about doing this show. If you need a jet its a good chance many sons and daughters in the faith are not being developed. I think about just sow your seed and how God is misrepresented by saying what God is going to do. God requires all His people to live by faith which is trusting in Him to fulfill His promises. That includes His Pastors. Time to stand for Jesus or just sit down.

  • John

    I by no means support this.

    But I must point out that prosperity is Scriptural & Gods idea.

    Health, wealth & protection from enemies was promised to Israel as long as they obeyed God. Those blessings were made available to the gentiles through Christ.

    Having said that I don’t believe any of these ministers here are truly prosperous. I think their wealth is the result of manipulation & greed.

    That doesn’t change the truth though.

  • Lord Wales

    The central theme of Jesus Christ is the cross at Calvary. Nothing changes that. This programme is blatant No No!

  • michelle

    I’m not perfect but sometimes pastors preach one thing and live another (I’m not talking about them being prosperous because God wants us to prosper). If you are preaching ” stop sinning “, yet you as a pastor have a baby out of wedlock. Then what does that tell me. Then again, I can’t judge . I’m not perfect although I’m striving to be perfect. We all need to pray for them and also for ourselves ;because the goal of the evil one is to destroy us all.

    • nequan

      dont get caught up into how they live just receive Gods word thats the only thing thats perfect!

      • Guest

        Amen!

    • John

      This is from Ephedians 1:7

      7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God’s grace.

      This is what Paul was talking about in 2 Cor.

    • La

      Prosperity is not always about material things as some people tend to believe and get it twisted. We can prosper in how we treat others, prosper in how we manage our finances, prosper in being a follower of Christ. Michelle none of us are perfect and should strive to be like Christ. He is the only perfect one. He is our model for life.

      • michelle

        amen

      • juliemango

        Amen. Prosper in all our ways.

  • RevRonnieG

    This hasn’t surprised God, nor should this shameful display surprise us! Contend for the faith!
    “Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.”
    Jude 3-4

  • Lady Rene’ Whitmore

    When will the church be THE CHURCH?

    • John

      When the church is more concerned with faithfulness to God then loyalty to the flesh.

    • Robert

      Exactly.

  • John S

    Watching this preview saddened and angered me at the same time. As a pastor I have a hard enough time with people who compromise Scriptural truth because of the world’s influence and now we get to see a bunch of “preachers” who are wolves in sheep’s clothing confuse them even more. They’ve taken prosperity to places it was never intended in Scripture, having babies out of wedlock, comparing themselves to Jay Z, etc. These men will have to answer to an almighty and holy God for their deception one day but I hope they turn and repent of the heresy before it’s too late.

    • Robert

      Wolves in sheep’s clothing is the perfect title Pastor. This is an absolute blight to Christianity.

  • Anson Goindoo

    Many of mainstream Pastors / Evangelist are not good theologians, sadly their understanding are constructed on experience, feels, ambitions, spiritual gifts, struggles, etc.

    I learnt a long time ago that the Bible makes no excuse for our weakness but ascribes the path by which we are to be perfected.

    I thank God for these Pastors of LA, and their contribution to the universal body of the Church, however, my gratitude towards them cannot save them. It is better to live a Holy life than depend on the balancing weight of GRACE.

    As for their reason for doing this, it makes no sense. I belong to an organization PAWI and the congregations are made aware of the role of the pastor, and the importance of the membership. We are trained to be servant leaders, and to give account to the congregation and other ministers. Our pastors do not need to expose their sinfulness for the congregation to understand that they are men / women. They are encouraged to follow Christ and lead others by example.

  • Robert

    This is absolutely a shame to the name of Christ. This is what happens when the church lets the world into its doors. Absolute shame. God’s judgement will fall hard on this stupidity.

    Its so sad to even think that people all over the nation will be watching this ill, chaotic, ignorance. What a terrible representation of Christianity.

  • Robert

    Wolves in sheep’s clothing. Absolute blight to Christianity. Wow.

  • Danny

    Regardless of your opinions about those men, our responsibility is not to pass judgment on them. What do non-Christians think when they read conversations like this?

    James 4:11 Do not speak evil of one another, brethren. He who speaks evil of a brother and judges his brother, speaks evil of the law and judges the law. But if
    you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. 12 There is one Lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy. Who are you to judge another?

    • Real Tartan Gambit

      Let non–chriztianz know that, “THIZ” iz NOT [da face of] CHRIZTIANITY…speakz “evil”…iz anyone speaking evil of them? Read Matthew 7:1-7. **on judging them.**

    • djam

      I urge you brother to receive the WHOLE counsel of the Holy Bible. Read also, 1 Corinthians Chapter 5. The whole chapter. Also, James 3:1 (but the whole chapter is good as well). Reading WHOLE chapters give us better understanding. Mark Twain said it is not the scriptures I don’t understand that bother me…it is the ones I do understand that bother me. We as Christians can get caught up in making scriptures fit us when we should be conforming to them. Roman 12:1-2. Remember, the word of God speaks for itself…IT judges the thoughts and the attitudes of our heart. Hebrews 4:12-13. IT cuts me too…I am responsible for my brothers and sisters in Christ….INCULDING telling them the Truth, the WHOLE Truth, and nothing but the Truth…even when it doesn’t feel good, so help me God. The bottom line is BALANCE. Balance between James 4:11 and what the scriptures quoted here. One last example…we hear A LOT that Jesus said, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” Right? Right…but how many times do you hear His last words to the woman caught in adultery??? Go and sin no more. Was Jesus telling her to go and be perfect? Of course not, but don’t turn belly up on sin. When I’m out of line I should let the word of God cut me. I know a pastor who use to be in this inner circle decades ago, but was cut out because he wanted to live solely by the scriptures. I at least know of two of these pastors first hand by the fruit of their lips ESSENTIAL doctrine is being twisted. 1 Timothy 4:16. You don’t have to be a scholar to see it….you just have to love the Lord deeply enough to really want to know by praying about knowing Him. We “Christians”, ME INCLUDED” want to be like Jesus except when it comes to the persecution part. Forget the Jesus pay my bills prayer and give me that car and I’ll serve you prayers. We would all do well to be like Solomon and ask for wisdom instead. In Love 1 Cor. 13. Peace and blessings

  • Big Giant Head

    ugggggggggggg

  • Scott Uselman

    Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooww. We can debate whether or not this resembles those rich oppressors in James, but I noticed that one of the preachers was having a conversation with his girlfriend who was forbidding him in having more children with her outside of marriage. It is okay to judge false doctrine and sin that occurs inside the Church. In fact, it is to be confronted.

  • sentejr

    This show is not about “pastors as human beings”. Instead, it is about “human beings who pretended to be pastors” to scam and victimize the people especially the vulnerable.

  • Roelof

    I am a pastor for almost 30 years, yes we do struggle with the flesh like any other man, we cannot be hypocrites, but we cannot be like these men who mislead God’s people and who do not live according to God’s word. We have got to be overcomers and lead those who follow Christ in Godliness/Holiness. the flesh has to be conquered.

  • MsShieka

    I don’t see anything wrong with these men, judging from this commercial, except the CRAZY & unacceptable situation with Deitrick Haddon having babies out of wedlock. They should tone all the flashiness down & be more humble, perhaps, but what’s wrong with having nice things as long as you are generous & are giving back to God’s kingdom?! We may not agree or understand how they could/would/should live lives of such opulence, but let us remember to judge not, lest we be judged by that same measure…

  • juliemango

    I agree with the Pastor. The show is a good platform to display what ppl wonder about regarding Pastors. A good myth buster.

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