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John Crist takes a humorous look at what happens when megachurches try to get “personal.”
“Megachurch” & “personal”…is that an oxymoron? If they don’t know my name how PERSONal can they be????? If a shepherd never touches his sheep is he still a shepherd or maybe a public speaker or administrator? Just asking? Is this success?
There are shepherds and under shepherds – Jesus was a spiritual shepherd and he did not all his sheep by name. A good shepherd may not everyone of the sheep but he will make sure they are touched by his influence and anointing through those he delegates. Many churches have Elders and deacons that serve as shepherds in the flock and assist the lead shepherd carry out the mission and vision to nurture and feed the flock.
Really?? He does not know all His sheep by name? Sorry my Bible reads differently, even to the point that He “knows the very hairs on our heads.” How much more personal can you get? Also the scene with the Samaritan woman at the well, well He knew her so deeply, that He knew even her lifestyle. Now I understand the context of your response, do I agree that all “mega-church” pastors are impersonal, no.
Actually the Scripture you quote is God knowing your hairs..not Jesus. I disagree with you that Jesus knew all the people who hovered around the group. He didn’t know the Samaritan womens name but by divine inspiration, which we also can exercise if we are listening, he knew her lifestyle. Megachurch or smaller church a shepherd will only remember 500 names, tops. But I am sure we have examples of shepherds who knew more. I have one. mine knew well over 5000. He used a memory scheme.
Secondly, why is it the sole task of the shepherd to be the one who knows everything? That sounds a bit demigod like or call me Holy Spirit. 1 Cor 12 points to us having different tasks to see the church function. I don’t see it saying there can only be one shepherd.
I agree its hard to be personal at a big church but is that the wrong context to expect it? Isn’t it a better place to come worship and celebrate the stuff that happened Mon – Sat rather than making the feature of the week, Sun. During the week in smaller groups we do life together and then come together corporately to celebrate God at work in our lives. Everyday is a day of worship then.
You then have people coming to church to worship rather than feed at the trough…until next week. “Phew, i made it through the week. Back at church to fill up on God for the next week.” They become feeders during the week and celebraters when together. Goes against our upbringing and training. When I was a missionary it was great to start church amongst a people group with no history. They met and studied during the week and then came together in larger groups to celebrate.
John 10:14 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me–
Seriously? You exegete this verse to mean Jesus knows everything about us? The verse uses the same “know”, Jesus to us and us to Jesus. Therefore we know everything about him too. “The number of hairs on his head…” We don’t, because this knowing is about relationship. In the same verses the Father knows the Son and the Son the Father – relationship.
To suggest that Jesus knew everything about everyone because of this verse is bad exegesis. By implication we know everything about Jesus…
Another commenter says its about making disciples. That’s it! whether a mega-church or small church our job is to make disciples; quantity and quality.
LAME–Not Funny–This is why other countries around the world have problems with Christians..Always making a mockery of the precious work Jesus did on the Cross to save us. They feel if we cant show reverence to our own GOD, then why should they.
Um…this isn’t at a church service…there’s no reverence needed at a comedy show…If you want to make the point that they shouldn’t do it at church than fine…but the building is not the church. And I didn’t catch even one part in the one minute and 19 seconds where he mocked Christ’s precious work on the cross at all. It’s not lame and it’s actually funny. Relax
Enjoyed it great sense of Humor.
Check out Mars Hill Mega Church in Seattle…talk about a mega-impersonal church!! No Love in that mega-sized stadium! Even less love if you happen to be a woman!!
The question is not so much the size of the church, but whether or not the church is making disciples (Matthew 28:19-20).
I have been a member of small churches all my life. I can tell you that they can be as impersonal as any mega church I have ever attended. In small churches who ever is in the “clique” gets the meals when their family dies, gets the baby showers, and personal visits from the pastor. If you do not belong to the in group, you are just fringe. I have seen it in action. More times that I care to say. My parents home church, which they attended more than 30 years of about 50-100 people on any given Sunday. When they missed 6 solid weeks due to my dad’s illness the only connection they got from the pastor was a couple text messages and very few visits from any of their members. They were never accepted into the in crowd, however after that episode they left the church. Small churches can pretend to have intimacy with it’s people, but in reality, it is no more intimate than that of a megachurch and even less if you factor in the ministries that go on in small group meetings.
I think the point of this video is… comedy. To laugh. Its good for us to be able to laugh at ourselves. It wasn’t meant to mock but in a fun way, bring up some things we see every week. I hope everyone can relax and enjoy this for what it is, and if it makes you think beyond it, cool. But don’t judge this the wrong way. Come on folks.
Joseph you have it right…it’s comedy…nothing more unless the Holy Spirit happens to be speaking to someone about a personal issue…He speaks to all of us in different ways…I hear the humor…thanks!
Apparently he’s gone missing. The elders of the church say they don’t know where he is, but they probably wouldn’t ask him back anyway.
This church leaders. Com is a bunch of bull thnx but I will unsubscribe! Every time I listen or watch your stuff the SPIRIT in me disagree!
From sin to holiness to respect to GOD! And what is this ? A joke, what does this man want to teach?
RELAX!!! @WAD Other countries around the world have problems with christians because they are too uptight…more specifically…western Christians are too uptight. Man people! Seriously! (Pun intended)
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