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“Christ will agree to terms of surrender, He will agree to terms of peace, but they are His terms of peace – not ours.”
Amen. Preeeaach! I love what he is saying. But the way he puts it kinda demented!!!
Coming to slaughter is a bit much – not a picture Jesus ever gave of himself in scripture.
Oh I don’t know, consider if you will:
“Revelation 14:19–20 (ESV)
19 So the angel swung his sickle across the earth and gathered the grape harvest of the earth and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood flowed from the winepress, as high as a horse’s bridle, for 1,600 stadia.”
“Isaiah 63:1–6 (ESV)
The Lord’s Day of Vengeance
63 Who is this who comes from Edom,
in crimsoned garments from Bozrah,
he who is splendid in his apparel,
marching in the greatness of his strength?
“It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save.”
2 Why is your apparel red,
and your garments like his who treads in the winepress?
3 “I have trodden the winepress alone,
and from the peoples no one was with me;
I trod them in my anger
and trampled them in my wrath;
their lifeblood spattered on my garments,
and stained all my apparel.
4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart,
and my year of redemption had come.
5 I looked, but there was no one to help;
I was appalled, but there was no one to uphold;
so my own arm brought me salvation,
and my wrath upheld me.
6 I trampled down the peoples in my anger;
I made them drunk in my wrath,
and I poured out their lifeblood on the earth.”
Love the text given; it is the interpretation of the PreMills that I’m not fond of. God’s judgment is certain against the evil of those who Rule.
I’m surprised you did not use the text in Rev where a sword is coming out of Christ’s mouth and he cuts everyone to pieces.
These are apocalyptic literature, prophetical in nature, eschatological, and very symbolic with deep beyond the surface meanings. They use a form of language that one has to be careful in how literal you take it.
These texts use exaggerated idiomatic speech, not unlike we use today. To simply show God will come and judge the living and the dead. These early Christians read Rev and did receive comfort from the fact that as they were being slaughtered, those in authority will be judged by God who are bringing down wrath on them. To think that Jesus is literally going to have a sword coming out of his mouth,
with white hair, riding a horse and dice people to pieces is not the Jesus who died to save, and wept over a city that would not repent.
The text simply shows that evil is triumphed by Jesus. I hope we can agree in that
There’s a typo in the text. Yielded is spelled yieled. Don’t mean to be picky.
There are numerous written errors, right from the beginning. It’s not “way in;” it’s “weigh in.” It’s not “legiance;” it’s “allegiance.” And I could go on…
I don’t think it’s being picky, Randy.
I think it’s lamentable when we invite ridicule from the world over such easily correctable shortcomings. It makes it easier for them to reject the meat of what’s being said, and reinforces the notions of those who think themselves sophisticated that faith in Christ is for the ignorant.
Too bad God’s love, unconditional love, was not mention. Alot of condemnation and damnation was preached. The scriptures are in the Bible, and so is love and redemption. If this was in there too, I would have liked it.
God’s unconditional love was shown when He died on a cross for us, BEFORE we even thought of coming to Him. Too often, Christians try to use God’s “unconditional love’ as an excuse to keep living mediocre lukewarm lives. That is NOT what Jesus died for….
This is a powerful video and a wonderful reminder of our calling as disciples. No “cheap grace” here.
Can’t believe I just spent 6 minutes watching this. I’m with a lot of what he’s saying, but the overall focus portrays a rather unattractive gospel. Surrender? Yes…that we may have life–to the fullest.
Yes, but that’s the “stumbling stone”, as it were. Life in the fullest, according to Jesus, is completely giving your life, and your rights to it, away. You no longer live for yourself, but for God.
And since that is the reason we were created….it is the ONLY was to find real and true fulfillment in life. Even though it is RADICALLY different than the world’s definition of fulfillment….
Thank you, This is the message we need to hear instead of the new Gospel of man being preached today. I thank God that when I was growing up we had preachers that preached hell so hot you could feel the flames and you knew the only hope you had was to bow in total repentence and surrender before a holy God. They showed us the real Gospel message that God is a God of judgment for all those who reject Christ. Today we have gone from preaching the holiness of God to peraching a God that is there to pamper man in his sins. The message today is about what God will do for me instead of how God expects me to bow in full surrender to him. God does not accept anything less than full repentance and surrender to him. If this kind of preaching upsets you I believe you need to check and see if you are truly a child of God. If you have never seen God for who he is you have never seen yourself for who you are as totally depraved. Only then can you really see how deeply you need Christ. When you see him that way you will be willing to surrender everything without resevation to him for his control. This come forward and repeat a prayer without any Holy Ghost Conviction of sin and have some pastor tell you you are saved is what has caused our churches in America to be made up of 80% lost that know nothing about being truely born again. Oh how we need more Jonathan Edwards and fewer Joel Osteens.
A very hearty AMEN!
The message is not false… we do see it in the Bible. But the way it is presented is definitely false. I don’t think anyone preaching to Christians and pre-Christians should adopt such a preaching style. 1 John 5:3b “…his commands are not burdensome”, yet the speaker is so weighed down by it. Poor thing!
People listen better with their eyes. It is better to walk the talk and role model, so people can see a living example rather than scream like a madman on stage and flogging the listeners.
Jesus replied, “And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.”
Not saying it’s 100% right, but sometimes, christians NEED to be woken up! It is like Jesus when He was preaching to the pharisees (the “Bible believers” of the time). He didn’t mince words with them….because they should have known better.
Jesus did speak more kindly and compassionate to the lost, however…
Yes, but who did Jesus actually speak those words to? His disciples…! Everything He said were for those guys, but later on He told them to “go and make disciples…” That’s where we come in. Also while His words were strong, it was still up to the guys to choose, notice “if” you want to be my disciples…” In other words if they chose not to carry their crosses, it was their choice all Jesus said, “You cannot be my disciples…” But never condemned them by not becoming His disciples…
Thank God for the wonderful message.This is the message for this generation. Many preachers out there are just after the money. They do not preach holiness and commitment any more for fear that the people will leave the church. The scripture cannot be broken for it is written. Whether you like this message or not, the bottom line is that this is the true message. Every one was born wrongly in the first place and every one needs to be born again into the family of God. Church is not a village meeting, a political arena, a football stadium, beach etc. it is a place where all who want to hear what it takes to be in the kingdom of God Almighty, the Creator and be transformed into the likeness of Jesus ought to be. I am blessed and challenged. There is fire of revival in the message for the souls longing for the Kingdom. I need more of this message. God bless you richly and increase you as you labor for Him.
Where’s the LOVE?…Before we start shouting words like judgement, condemnation, sacrifice, damned, surrender and slaughter to name a few, it probably would have been helpful especially to the unchurched listener (our mission field) to understand God’s great LOVE first through the only Way, Jesus rather than the scare tactic I just heard. As a Christian, I got the message and yes biblical, given the proper context but if His church is called to “go make disciples” our approach must begin and end with His LOVE as He did.
Davelly, since when is truth a scare tactic?
“Oh, uh, sir, uh, your house is on fire, but first let me tell you how wonderful our firemen are in this town! Why, did you know that they have raffles to raise money for children and I personally know the fire chief and he’s a great guy….so when you decide it’s convenient and you don’t have any more objections, you may want to give them a ringy dingy and tell ‘em I sent ya! Okay, buh bye!”
Well “Mr./Mrs. Guest?”
Never said Truth is a scare tactic but rather the delivery of it in my opinion. There’s a way to present the Gospel to a culture and audience that is searching for Truth but is not yet ready to sell the farm and give it all away and oh by the way tell them that their damned to hell. They need to hear Jesus first not judgement! In the right context and audience this might fly (ie: church revival) but wouldn’t want to play this to my unsaved friends and expect them to run to the altar at the coffee shop would you? Didn’t hear any Jesus in the dialogue and isn’t He the real message we should be teaching more rather than always preaching. There is a difference.
How about…”Oh, uh, sir, your life is on fire so let me tell you how wonderful Jesus is and His plan to extinguish the flames of sin because He loves you!…” Read John 3:16 but don’t stop there…try v. 17 too!
Bottom line…Jesus came to save first not slaughter!
I GIVE MY TOTAL BEING BACK TO IT’S CREATOR . I WILL FOLLOW JESUS BACK TO MY HOME BEING LEAD BY GOD HOLY SPIRIT CLEANES BY MY SAVIOUR BLOOD ACCEPTED BY JESUS FATHER IAM WHO IAM .
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