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One would assume that because Christians are followers of the Truth, that we would be less susceptible to such lies.

The apostle Paul wrote:

“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.” 2 Timothy 4:3-4

We are all susceptible to believing lies at any given time. The world is magical at presenting its counterfeit products as the genuine article. One would assume that because Christians are followers of the Truth, that we would be less susceptible to such lies.

The real truth, however, is that Christians believe many lies. We sometimes don’t even realize that they are lies because they are wrapped up so nicely with what appears to be a “Bible bow.”

There are hundreds of lies Christians believe, either collectively or individually. I chose these five lies because I have personally seen them infiltrate the church, the lives of my friends and family, and my own life.

Here are the Top Five Lies Christians Believe (according to me):  

1. Church is not necessary.

In other words, it’s OK to be a lone Christian.

I was a lone Christian for many years. I knew no differently and I honestly didn’t know any better. Somehow in my daily reading of scripture, all the talk of the body and fellowship just flew right past me.

The saddest thing is that it was my lack of accountability and relationship that pushed me to my furthest point away from God. I would wake up every morning and feel hopeless and alone.

2. All Christians need to do is be “good” and act “nice.”

That is what a “good Christian does.” This lie is one of the enemy’s greatest weapons. He wants us to believe that if we just “act” a certain way and keep up appearances (i.e. do good works apart from grace) that we will be OK.

Satan wants to convince us that we are capable, in our own strength, to accomplish God’s will, thereby rejecting the Holy Spirit. We ignore the Holy Spirit and all of His available guidance, power and counsel. We treat the Spirit as either insignificant to create change in our life, or simply irrelevant. We believe wrongly that we can “make it happen.”

Yet, it is through the Spirit that we are empowered to do God’s work. Likewise, our salvation rests on knowing Christ, loving Him completely, nothing else.

God will not ask if you were a nice person when you stand before Him. He will want to know if you knew His Son.

Nicole Cottrell Nicole Cottrell is trained in the fine art of button-pushing. She uses her skills daily on Modern Reject where she writes about the intersection of faith and culture as well as the unpopular stuff no one else likes to talk about. Nicole is a speaker, writer, discipler, and coffee fanatic. She and her husband planted the Foundation, a network of house churches in Arizona. Nicole lives in Scottsdale with her husband and two little munchkins, three of the coolest and funniest people she knows.

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  • Jessica Mokrzycki

    I would say, if they are lies, that  1, 3, and 5 would apply to my situation. I haven’t gone to church regularly since this past June. Also, the more I’ve searched out God’s nature the less personal I’ve perceived it to be…in fact, I don’t even pray anymore. And perhaps 5 would apply because I don’t understand how there can be suffering in this world with an all loving, powerful God that if He witnessed suffering, and had the power to stop it, surely would.

    • quez

      That is a long-used argument about whether or not God would stop suffering if He were truly a loving God. If God saved us from every consequence of a disobedient choice, what reason is there to be obedient? If we saved our own children from the consequences of their disobedience, what kind of people will they grow up to be? God allows us our choices, and our consequences, all the while giving us the needed guidance. For Him to compel us all to be nice to each other and love each other and Him would be about as fulfilling for Him as it would be for us to treat baby dolls as our children. Not so much actually. And if were never in crisis, we would never need to turn to Him. On the surface, the question sounds reasonable, but it doesn’t allow for the whole nature of God and Who He is as our Father.

    • Eli

      The only way God could stop suffering would be to take away our free will.  If you take away our free will, then we become little more than robots rather than loving children.

      Will you trade your free will for God dictatorially ruling the world?

  • Guest

    I trusted Sunday pastors that sunday the first day of the week was the official day of worship instead of the 7th day…that is until I read and studied the Bible for myself. Then I realize I was being lied to by them.   The Holy Seventh day Sabbath which was blessed and sanctified by God at Creation, and codifed as the fourth Commandment in the ten Commandments is still the day of worship and is the most Holy day of the year..and we should keep it Holy each week.    so be careful you wannabe christians…better check it out carefully and read the words of Jesus in the New covenant, in which He outlines the terms of Salvation, in His covenant…for sure read Mark 19.17 , Mark 7, John 14.15, ..

    • Christopher

      There is no Mark 19.17

      And you should read

      Every day belongs to God.

    • Cjazh

      I was a 7th day Sabbath keeper for many years.   Not until I realized how it became the focus (rather than Jesus), and how it created a judgemental heart (after all, I had the truth and others didn’t, so I was better than they were), did I begin to understand that God’s concerns are of the heart.   Worship of God is 24×7, 365 …. not limited to the 7th day.   Jesus is the sabbath … he brings rest to our souls.

      • Guest

        You obviously did not know who to keep the Sabbath is a delight to fellowship with God and God’s people for a complete is not grievous as per the Apostle John..if itwas for you you obviously have a hardened heart towards God and His Holy day each week…study the teachings of Jesus some more, and pray about it, and it will come clear to you!

      • Guest

        You obviously did not keep it Holy, if you did not focus on God/Jesus…certainly you can worship God 7 days a week..but you do it 24 hours a day?  as Apostle John said “those who say they know God and keep not His Commandments are liars and the truth is not in them”…does that fit? God Commanded the keeping Holy of the 7th day Sabbath, which He implemented at Creation in Genesis 2…and now Cjazh and the sunday folk think they can overrule a power trip you are on!

      • Guest

        You obviously did not keep the day Holy, if you could not focus on God/Jesus. The Holy seventh day Sabbath is for fellowship with God, and other true Christians, and prayer, praise and worship, Bible studies, with the complete focus on God/Jesus..maybe if you pray about it, your will be able to enjoy it as well as other true Christians!

      • Eagle36

        Do not engage corngergas (aka Josh in other discussions) in discussion about this subject because he has no desire to listen to anything that contradicts his belief system regarding the “sabbath”.  It does not even matter to him if you quote scriptures from Jesus that directly contradict his assertions.  It is not worth your time to become frustrated and engage him in discussion, he will not listen.

      • Eagle36

        Thank you for you honest testimony Cjazh and I think that corngergas is helping prove the “judgmental heart” point very well.  Pride is such an easy trap to fall into and it only leads to bondage and the loss of our witness for Jesus.  I know because I have been there in my life as well.  Praise God that Jesus came to give us freedom from bondage to rules and regulations and bring us peace and joy in a life of worship lived for him every day.

      • Guest

        yeah right, as if you do that, you are obviously deceiving yourself!

    • Justin

      Paul made it pretty clear that it really doesn’t matter what day you choose to worship, or if you chose a single ritual day at all. It’s about your heart condition. Legalism leads to being self righteous, judgy, and usually very far from God’s heart. Be careful about going down that path.

      • Guest

        Then why do you pick the day of the sun to worship God?  Why no pick Tuesday or some other day…no Justin, you are following the early Roman church, when it changed God’s times and laws (read Daniel) prophesy that this would happen…changed to the day of the sun to keep the pagans happy..and to distance themselves from the Jewish are grasping at straws with Paul’s convoluted writings on the 2nd Peter 3 . 16 regarding Pauls writings…oh and if it is legalism to keep the Law, as required by Jesus then that is what it you can rely on Paul for your salvation, I will follow the teachings of Jesus for my Salvation…

        • Justin

          Do you believe that corporate worship on one day, instead of another is a salvation issue? If so, I don’t even know if we are talking about the same faith anymore.

          • Guest

            Jesus said “to enter into life keep the Commandments”…argue with Him..our Lord and Saviour…He said it, and I believe it!

          • Justin

            Brother, I appreciate your fervor. I think we are going to have to agree that Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross is why we have hope of salvation and leave it there for now. I feel other wise we are just going to talk past each other all day. Be blessed and filled with the spirit. Peace.

          • Guest

            Yes Jesus death on the cross provides for the basis for our salvation. But the fact remains, one does not go on sinning after one receives forgiveness through grace!  As Paul said.. “should we sin more so grace abounds? God forbid”…and Jesus spelled out His requirements of how to show our love for Jesus told some of His followers who thought they were doing a great job healing and casting out demons “depart from me I never knew you, you who practice lawlessness” (transgression of the law or sinning)..very clear!

          • Michael Waldron

            So you never sin anymore? Right….ok. blantant misinterpretation of the scriptures.

          • Minister Speed

            Colossians 2:16, Let no man therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days.

          • Eagle36

            Do not engage corngergas (aka Josh in other discussions) in discussion about this subject because he has no desire to listen to anything that contradicts his belief system regarding the “sabbath”.  It does not even matter to him if you quote scriptures from Jesus that directly contradict his assertions.  It is not worth your time to become frustrated and engage him in discussion, he will not listen.

          • Pastornbc

            You are wise eagle in helping others who are not in need of a physician…only the sick need a healer.

          • Guest

            It is a matter of following the Commandments as per Jesus instructions in the New Covenant…He wrote the instructions, so don’t you think they should be followed? If you follow something other than Jesus taught then it is a different faith..Jesus warned of it in Matthew 24..there will be many false Christs…do not follow them…if you follow His words, and instructions in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John you cannot go wrong…if you don’t and superimpose some other teachings, that appear to contradict Jesus, then you are following an imposter, just as Jesus prospesied!

          • Michael Waldron

            So based on what you’re saying, if God healed you of a sickness or disease, would you then go show the local priest as is dictated in the Mosaic law and offer the prescribed sacrifices? These were Jesus’ words as well. When the Lord spoke, he was speaking to a Jewish people still under the old covenant law. There are some things that have specifically changed under the new covenant of His blood. It’s important to correctly read and interpret the scriptures. I know you may think you are doing God’s work on this blog, but you are nothing but divisive and argumentative. The apostle Paul instructed believers to not be either of those but to ‘gently’ instruct. I’ve seen nothing gentle about your comments anywhere throughout this blog. I’ve seen quite the opposite actually.

      • Josh

        No he didn’t! You are reading into Paul’s writing something that is not there…check what Peter warned about Paul;s writings..Paul writes in a manner which confuses people like yourself who are not familiar with scripture, and who are looking for an excuse to disobey God’s Holy word…You should really read what our Lord and Saviour said on the subject….He said keep the Commandments…in numerous places…and also Apostle John re-iterated the point in hs writings…also in Revelation…Jesus says..behold I come quickly and my reward is with me for every man according to his WORKS!!!…SO IF you want to follow Paul for your salvation go for it, but Jesus is the only way..John 14.6…it is suggested you study the words of Jesus, and learn what the New Covenant is actually all about!

    • Eli

      Do you thin the sixth day is still Saturday?  With all the calendar changes from creation to now, it could easily be Tuesday or Wednesday.

      What you are teaching is legalism and adding caveats to Jesus’ all sufficient grace.  Do you eat shrimp or lobster?  How about pork?  Do you eat cheeseburgers?  Do you have a kosher kitchen?  To break one commandment is to break them all, so either keep them all or depend on Jesus grace.

      Draw close to God; and you will do his work.

      • Guest

        The seventh day is still the seventh day of the week..which happens to be named Saturday..the sequential rotation of days 1 through 7 has not changed since God created time in the Creation week..Is keeping the laws legalism? You are totally confused with the food issues…they are under the Mosaic law, of which there are 632 laws which Moses wrote down, including the food laws, sacrificial laws, ceremonial laws, etc…God’s law the Ten Commandments was written by the finger of God on the tablets of stone, and is placed inside the Holy of Holies, the Ark of the Covenant, so the may not be broken.   The Mosaic law was not placed inside the ark.  Jesus grace forgives our sins for sure.   But study your Bible and you will see, sin is trangression of God’s law the ten Commandments..the holy Seventh day Sabbath is the fourth.   You are confusing the Mosaic law and God’s law…I hope this helps you understand this and differentiate between the two! 

        • Pastornbc

          I thought an angel appeared to Moses…maybe I am not as scholarly as others.

        • Michael Waldron

          Salvation is not based upon keeping the commandments. I sure hope and pray to the Lord you don’t believe this. So I’m assuming you never break any of the ten commandments anymore. You have reached perfection persay?

      • Eagle36

        Do not engage corngergas (aka Josh in other discussions) in discussion about this subject because he has no desire to listen to anything that contradicts his belief system regarding the “sabbath”.  It does not even matter to him if you quote scriptures from Jesus that directly contradict his assertions.  It is not worth your time to become frustrated and engage him in discussion, he will not listen.

    • Minister Speed

      Colossians 2:16- Let no man therefore judge you in food, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days

  • Elliemarshall103

    Hi Jessica Mokrzycki, i understand your problem with the nature of God, i have asked the same questions in the past myself, i recommend a book by Andrew Wommack called “The True Nature of God” you can buy it on amazon, i think it is really worth reading, it has helped a lot of people i know, i pray it will help you. 

  • nikki

    The lies I struggle with as of right now would be 1 because of how I very Christianity in the united states right now and number 3 because of I’ve always lived for other people and have been made to feel as if I matter very little.

  • Jhd1980

    Nicole is your first lie referring to church as the body of Christ or local congregations?

    • Modern Reject

      More so, I’m referring to the body of Christ. Church is not a place, but a people, right? But for many people, that more literally translates as a local congregation. If that is where people find their fellowship and accountability, then so be it.

  • Rob Tim 1

    I would say you need fellowship & attend church as no 1. Sometimes its hard keeping up enthusiasm, but you need others to encorage.
                          Also there is suffering in the world; but it would be much more worse without God’s protection. As we say in the Lord’s prayer, your kingdom come, you will be done. True justice will come 1 day soon!

  • Cjazh

    I often see the following type of message in Christian circles… why?  
    I understand that contentment is difficult to find …
    I understand that happiness is not the goal per se, but rather a result.
    But why do we find it necessary to tell people that God doesn’t say he wants us to be happy?

    Is that good news?   Does that further the gospel somehow?   Why would anyone be attracted to that message? 
    I thought Jesus said that His burden was light, that he brings rest to our souls, that he came that we might live abundantly.   For me, when I focus on that truth, it is much easier to be happy.
    Why then, do we want to tell people how much “harder” the Christian life is?   Does that make us feel better about ourselves somehow, because we’re not the sort of people that just enjoy life, but that we persevere through the struggle?   
    The closing sentence says that freedom is what the author is after.   Freedom to do what?   For me, it is  a freedom that includes happiness … because of who Jesus is, what He has done, and what He continues to do I am free to live abundantly and be happy.    Thank you, Lord!

    • Elliemarshall103

      Amen to that Cjazh, we would want our children to be happy, so why wouldn’t our heavenly Father want us to be Happy too, the church seems to portray God as a strict mean Father who wants to teach us something through pain and hardship, thats one of the TOP LIES in the church today, when as you have said Jesus came that we might have life more abundantly (Jesus said ” If you want to know what the Father is like look at me” Jesus is the True Nature of God) it is the devil who came to rob, steal and destroy.
      I know in my own life how Jesus has brought me through so much the devil has thrown at me and has tried to rob me of, but Jesus has brought me life abundant and happiness and like you say continues to do so, so i am set free to live abundantly with a grateful heart, Praise His wonderful Name.

    • rpc

      I think the problem with this lie “God wants me to be happy”  is that people pursue their own purposes and plans instead of God’s plans. Sometimes we don’t want to do the tough things, like staying in a mediocre (or worse) marriage and winning the marriage back.

      True, God is not a killjoy but our obedience will interfere with our pursuit of happiness at times, won’t it?

  • Cathcart Boy

    I think the brief bio offered on behalf of the writer, including “coffee fanatic” matches the seriousness with which this piece ought to be read. No big deal.

  • Chung Li

    These five and many more “lies” have been perpetuated into the culture.  Just recently a man left his marriage of 15 years w/ three little ones because he said, “I am not happy”.  Claim to love his family, but just didn’t feel “happy” anymore so he is opting out.  A Dr. told him his happiness was of the highest priority.  How often we meet folk who claim all five of these lies!?  I don’t need church, God is to blame for all  pain and suffering, I’m a good person, that’s not my job; let the Pastor do it, and all I want is to be happy.  Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty good assessment of the facts.

  • Dave N

    Satan uses all kinds of devices  (lies) to tear us away from God. These five are just some of his devices in his bag of tricks. I’ve learned there are two keys…stay in “The Word” constantly and obey “The Word” when it speaks to you.

    • Guest

      Yes satan is very clever..and the bigger hoax he perpetrated on the christian community was 1700 years ago, when, through the Roman church and the Roman emperor Constantine, he had them switch the day of worship from the seventh day of the week (Saturday) to the first day of the week (sunday)..early followers of Jesus led by the Apostles kept the Holy seventh day Sabbath as per Acts 13.(14, 42-44) 17 ((2), 18 (4), as a few examples. In  Rome it was ordered that the change take place to the firstday of the week to  keep the sun god crowd happy…the Roman church has followed this ever since, and so has the protestant churches…Prophet Daniel prophesied this would happen Daniel chapter 7(25).  So you can see this deception was the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity, and results in the “counterfeit” christianity which now has engulfed the majority of professing christians….

      • Jessica Brown

        Considering the godless, merciless, cruel, and misguided culture we live in, you really consider the “true” day of worship as the most important thing on the Christian agenda? You are a classic example of the Devil sending division amongst the faithful. You muddy the waters, you divert valuable time and energy from where it needs to go. When you have fed a bunch of widows and orphans and given your last dime to help those less fortunate, then we can debate the day of the Sabbath. Until then, please, be quiet and pray that your mind be un-clouded.

        • Guest

          Yes I hope you do that, and pray you learn the true teachings of Jesus our Lord and saviour, and break free from the counterfeit christianity, which has been around for far too long, and as long as spineless, mindless preachers keep on spouting the same old garbage without reading the holy Bible then it will continue to get worse and our world will continue down the slope of moral decay, which we are experiencing now…only God can turn things around, but as long as arrogant, blind wannabe christians keep spouting false doctrine, and following another Jesus then it will continue down out of control…so the choice is yours….

        • Josh

          Jessica you call yourself a Christian?  Do you walk as Jesus walked? Do you follow all ten  Commandments? If not then you would be a transgressor of the law, and as Apostle John says..anyone who says they know Jesus, and follows not His Commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him..

      • MTNimrod

        Then why were the disciples gathered together on the first day of the week in Acts 20? “To break bread”, which is a reference to partaking in the Lord’s Supper. Also, Paul said that each one should set aside his gift in accordance with his income on the first day of the week in 1 Cor 16:20. Even the day the church began, the day of Pentecost, was a Sunday.

  • Rachel

    I’m not sure I agree with the wording of lie 5.
    At the moment, it sounds as if you’re saying God might want us to be UNhappy.
    I disagree with that. God is our loving Father, and no father would actively want his children to be unhappy.

    But I think a lie we believe far too often is “As a Christian I should be happy at all times” – which means when things go wrong, when disasters strike, and when life throws you some nasty hurdles… this can seriously affect your theology and relationship with God.

    Life can be really tough. The last five years of my life have been pretty horrific at times. God never promised me life would be easy, he never promised me I’d always be happy. But he did promise me that he would never leave me.
    And that’s what gets me through…

    • Mudderhen987

      Sorry Rachel, but the Bible says to be happy where you are planted.  Exstactically happy, no; but whatever position you find yourself in, you’re to thank God for that also.  Because if we really know God, he will find a way around a situation, but most situations are for us to learn to rely on God & the
      Holy Spirit.  Everything is a learning situation.  You have to get to a point where you understand what God is trying to teach you.  Once you have progressed out of that situation, God will lead you to something else; he may
      give you a reprieve and allow you to enjoy his blessings on your next venture,
      but the next one may be a serious adventure, and will be tested to find out where your “trust” lies? Either in yourself or in God????

    • Modern Reject

      I understand your hesitation in response to #5. I will say, that no, I do not think God  wants us to be unhappy, by any sense of the word.

      I think we agree, that following the Lord does not guarantee an easy life, but rather His presence and peace in the midst of our trials.

  • Jack Vorster

    We certainly aren’t here to have fun and enjoy ongoing satisfaction. That went out the window when Adam capitulated. And the Noahic flood swept away all ideas of happiness as proof that man’s happiness is tied up in wickedness. It seems our sole purpose is to fulfill the commission of Mark 16 while enjoying God’s protection and living life in abundant joy until He returns or we go home to be with Him.

  • Bawkkham

    I agree with you and responding to No.2…I would like to add one more lie to Christians… i.e…some Christians wrongly valued on “God’s Grace” for christian life and said, “Christians need no more to do good things.” It is true that we can do nothing for our own salvation, because it’s totally depend on God’s grace (Ephe. 2:8-10).But Paul said, in 2Pet.1: 5-7, that…” for these very reason do your best to add goodness to your faith.” God gives Christians His Power to share His glory and goodness …and to accomplish His will (goodness) .

    • Charlie Marquez

      I’m pretty sure that Paul didn’t say anything in Peter’s epistles. Secondly, it is a misnomer to think that submersing ourselves in grace will somehow result in ungodly living; when in fact, it’s the only thing that will motivate true godly change. Our own effort to “be good Christians” will only result in pride if we think we are doing well, and despair if we are honest about our failures. Something Paul actually did say about it, in Titus, makes it crystal clear that it is grace that leads a regenerate heart to live godly. 

      Tit 2:11-12  For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,  (12)  training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age. 
      Grace trains us to live godly not ungodly.

      A “watch out for grace it’s dangerous” attitude will only fill the church with Pharisees trying to prove to God and those around them that they deserve God’s favor. If we have to earn either salvation or continued blessing after we are saved, then it’s not grace + goodness or something else. It’s not grace at all. It’s no longer about what Jesus did. It’s about me and what I do. That’s not what the Bible teaches, and that’s not grace.

      Rom 11:6  But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.

      • Guest

        Shall we sin more so grace abounds?  God forbid! (Paul)
        Faith without works is dead!  (James)

  • Bobby

    Great post torri… I myself have believed some of these lies at times and have seen the devastating effects of them in my life and the life of God’s church.. Question about the last one… God wants us to be happy. I know there is a distinction between joy and happiness… But they do seem to be used as synonyms at times… It’s seems in you post that you would disagree with Piper’s thoughts on Christian Hedonism… It does seem that out of the text of Scripture you find God’s design for us to be joy (or pleasure or happiness, if I may) seekers in Him. Obviously that design has been perverted. Thoughts? Or maybe some helpful clarity if you see a difference in the lie and what I’m referring to? Thanks… Ps missed you in foundations…

  • Mike

    Very good artilce. It helps to consider the difference betweem happiness and joy in most of the above comments, and it also helps to consider what it means to uphold the law when salvation is by grace alone and we are already crucified with Christ.

    • Modern Reject

      Mike, well said and thank you for the kind words.

  • Charlie Marquez

    You can rely on Jesus’s teachings and your ability to keep them – I’ll rely on His finished work in my place. I am much more confident in His ability to keep the Law then mine.

    You are sure throwing around some accusations. It sure seems to me like the early church (Pre-Rome) made a habit of meeting on the first day of the week because it aligned with the Resurrection of Jesus, John 20:19, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2.

    I made a comment below about how performing (or Law-keeping) to earn salvation or God’s favor leads to pride. I think you just made my point. Thanks. 

  • Charlie Marquez

    @corngergas – You can rely on Jesus’s teachings and your ability to keep them – I’ll rely on His finished work in my place. I am much more confident in His ability to keep the Law than mine.

    You are really throwing around a lot of accusations. It sure seems to me like the early church (Pre-Rome) made a habit of meeting on the first day of the week because it aligned with the Resurrection of Jesus, John 20:19, Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:2.

    I made a comment below about how performing (or Law-keeping) to earn salvation or God’s favor leads to pride. I think you just made my point. Thanks.

    • Guest

      No Commandment from God to keep resurrection..only Commandment by Jesus to remember His death..which sealed the New Covenant….you are follow man made traditions, which Jesus warns not to do…”you follow the traditions of man and not the Commandments of God”..Acts 20 7 mentions breaking bread (having a meal)after the Sabbath and Paul continued preaching until late. that was in the evening, and then in daylight on the first day of the week he went on his journey.  (don’t forget days start at sunset in Bible times) mention cor 16,2,, they would not desecrate the Holy Sabbath day, Paul advised them to gather their donations together on the first day of the week (a work day) and have them ready for pick up…you find this evidence of a worship…you are really grasping at straws to avoid keeping God’s Holy fourth Commandment! The false teaching counterfeit christianity has got you confused there Charlie..pray about it so you can accept the truth, and it will set you free…

      • Michael Waldron

        No one is made holy or set free by observing the law…it’s only through the law that we become conscience of sin. (Rom 3:19-20) That’s the whole purpose of the law-to show us our sinfulness and lead us to Christ (Gal 3:24). Jesus focused on the two things which really matter: Loving the Lord with all our heart, soul, mind and strength and loving our neighbor as ourself. The entire law is summed up in those two commands. I certainly don’t see anything Charlie needs to pray about and I certainly don’t see Charlie grasping at any straws to try avoiding a command. He has been set free by the cross of Christ. Unfortunately it doesn’t sound like you have yet. Praying the eyes of your heart are opened. You seem to have a lot of rage and bitterness…

    • Guest

      You cannot keep God’s law? So you think it is okay to steal? Kill? etc ..Apostle John says God’s law is not grievous, and Apostle James says it is a law of love..maybe if you pray about it you will be able to keep it too!

    • Eagle36

      Do not engage corngergas (aka Josh in other discussions) in discussion about this subject because he has no desire to listen to anything that contradicts his belief system regarding the “sabbath”.  It does not even matter to him if you quote scriptures from Jesus that directly contradict his assertions.  It is not worth your time to become frustrated and engage him in discussion, he will not listen.

      • Guest

        Come Eagle 36 give us a quote from the Bible by Jesus, that says the Holy Seventh day Sabbath is no longer in effect…am waiting for that with held breath…let’s have it!

  • Eagle36

    I would like to add another “lie” to the list.

    The lie that – Women cannot preach, teach, etc in the church, that they “must be silent” and that they cannot exert “authority” over a man.

    Some people take a couple of Scripture references and use them as a foundation for these beliefs but in doing so, they ignore the greater issues of context and they have to ignore many other Scriptures that directly contradict this “lie”.  The story of Deborah in the OT proves that God can use a woman to lead an entire nation including the men.  In the NT, women were a part of the Church including praying and prophesying.  Galatians 3:26-28 states, “For you are all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus.  And all who have been united with Christ in baptism have put on Christ, like putting on new clothes.  There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male and female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.”

    In Christ we are all equal because the Holy Spirit is living in every one of us.  It is the Spirit of God working in and through us that makes us Christians.  There are no differing levels of Holy Spirit power for men and women.  We all have the same Spirit which means we are all equal.  We are all given different gifts but there are no gifts that are reserved just for men or just for women.  God determines what gifts each of us get and if we try and tell others what gifts they can and can’t have or exercise, we place ourselves in the place of God and we are looking at the “outward appearance” of people to determine if God can use them to speak to us.  That is a dangerous position to be in – to tell God who He can and can’t use to speak Truth into your life.

    Keep up the good work Nicole!

    • Modern Reject

      You said: “There are no differing levels of Holy Spirit power for men and women.” Amen to that.

      Thanks for the thoughtful comment and kind words.

    • brother Roy (alias Broy)

      That’s true. In our country, many churches dont let women preach, worship lead, teach, etc. Fortunately, our church not belong to that.

    • MTNimrod

      It’s not a matter of “equality”, but a matter of God-designated purpose.

      Here’s a question for you. Is the husband the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church? In your view of “equality”, such a thing cannot be true. Yet Ephesians 5:23 states it plainly and clearly, without any room for “cultural considerations”.

      So I conclude that God has an organizational and hierarchical design and purpose for men and women that is not subject to men’s (or women’s) whims and desires. The question then is whether we will submit to that purpose and design or rebel against it.

      Whatever gifts the Holy Spirit gives to each one as He wills will be accompanied by the opportunity to exercise those gifts appropriately within the framework of God’s design and purpose. We do not have to manufacture those opportunities.

  • David

    Lie number one is certainly not a lie. Church is not necessary. It is not necessary for salvation, or sanctification. God builds us up(John 15:1-8), but He wants us to be in fellowship with other believers. Does God want us to go to Church? Yes. But it’s not necessary. If you have a group of Christian friends and you meet with them often, but you don’t go to Church, you’re in fellowship with brothers and sisters in Christ(yes I realize that Christians are the church, not the building or service so you could still say they’re going to church, just not in the traditional sense, but I’m referring to church in terms of the service).

    • Modern Reject

      David, I agree with you. I’m the author of this post, also. I happen to believe that the Church is not a building, but the collective body of believers. Christ never identified the Church as a place, but a people.

      All that to say, I think we are saying the same thing. We do need other believers–for fellowship, accountability, edification. This becomes a lie, in that, many Christians believe they need neither a church building (which I agree with) or the actual body of believers themselves.

      I am essentially referring to Christians thinking that they can live out their faith as lone Christians. That is a lie.

      Thanks for commenting.

    • brother Roy (alias Broy)

      Brother, i think what he is trying to express that church is necesary for edification , encouragement, rebuked or checked by the word of God through the preacher. There’s an illustration.. . A christian is like branch on a bonfire, when you get him outta bonfire, its fire will little by little gone. He Scripture sez that do not forsake the assembly….. amen?

  • christine

    No,my obedience will not interfere with my pursuit of happiness.  God always knows what is best for me in any given situation/circumstance.  An example – A guy I met years ago wanted to date me and I prayed about it – and in my devotions that day – the word said to be aware of “wolves in sheeps clothing”!  I found out this guy was abusive. God was protecting me and no I didn’t date the guy in question.

    Of course God wants me to be happy.  He also wants me to learn by my mistakes and to do my part in the situation and look for the gift I need to learn. 

    Life can be extremely tough and its up to me to look to God in every cirumstance in the good and the bad times and seek his guidance and direction in prayer and in his word which I do.  Its also ok to ask God for help which I do.

    I wouldn’t be without my relationship with Jesus Christ.

  • Guest

    Eagle 36 you say Jesus made a statement the Holy Seventh day Sabbath does not have to be observed ….where is it?  Where is that quote from our Lord and Saviour that negates the Holy Seventh day Sabbath?    Come on..lets see it!

  • Guest

    Eagle 36 you say Jesus made a statement the Holy Seventh day Sabbath does not have to be observed ….where is it?  Where is that quote from our Lord and Saviour that negates the Holy Seventh day Sabbath?    Come on..lets see it!EditReply
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    • Pastorbmiller

      The only place Holy and Sabbath appear in the same sentence in the New Testament is in Colossians 2:16:Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an
      holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days. Jesus didn’t say to keep the Sabbath. He was asked which was the greatest commandment and He said to love God with all your heart, soul and mind. The second is like the first, love each other. Acts 20:7 clearly shows a church service on Sunday, as does 1 Corinthians 16:2. Study Romans 11:6, in context. Salvation is by works, or grace through faith, not both. Works (observing the Sabbath) won’t save you and has no place in salvation. You MUST use Scripture to interpret Scripture. If you don’t, you can make it say whatever you want.

      • Guest

        God said to keep the Sabbath..isn’t that good enough for you? Obviously not, and Jesus kept the seventh day Sabbath, the Apostles Jews and Gentiles kept the seventh day Sabbath long after Jesus died. You quote colossians 2 16….it does not say God’s Holy seventh day was done away with..of course he would not contradict Jesus.   He is saying to the gentiles who where into pagan worship, do not let your previous pagan associates judge you or even ridicule you for your new found Christian beliefs….
        You mention acts 20 7  they had supper after the Sabbath in the evening, and Paul continued on talking…and at daylight on the first day of the week he continued his journey…what church service..a one shot supper, and speaking to them, which carried over frojm the Sabbath.  …1st corinthians 16.2..because they did not want to desecrate the Sabbath Paul instructed them to get everything lready on the first day of the week (a working day) to take to Jerulsalem)…no church srvice there..remember..should we sin more so grace abounds..God forbid
        and Faith without works is dead…I have taught you people this on this blog a few times..are you able to read? Scripture does interpret scripture…Jesus words are very clear on what He expects of us…in the New Covenant…if you want to ignore His words, and believe Paul is contradicting Him, then you have free will to do so…you can rely on Paul for your salvation, which you appear to be doing…for me I wll rely on the words of Jesus, and His instructions for my Salvation…If you really are a Pastor, based on your post it is obvious to me why so many false beliefs exist and why the counterfeit christianity is flourishing..

        • Michael Waldron

          Well of course Jesus kept the Sabbath. He was still under the law at that time. There had been no cross yet, no redemption, no blood had been shed, no new covenant yet established that would eventually set us free from the bindings of the law. You must always read the gospels in this light.

      • Josh

        Exodus 20 Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy!..and Faith without works is dead (Apstle James)..and Jesus himself said in Rev. 22 “behold I come quickly and my reward is with me for every man according to his WORKS”…you should read the words of God and Jesus instead of trying to weasel out of keeping the Commandments by misinterpreting Paul’s writings…I remind you even though you want to make Paul your saviour, Jesus is our Lord and Saviour…it seems you do not know this!…

      • Guest

        God’s fourth Commandment..”remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy”..guess the word of God is not good enough for you…you want to quote some irrelevant passages of Paul’s writings which have no bearing on the fourth Commandment at all, but you use as an excuse to disobey the fourth Commandment…hmmm well if you want to rely on Paul for your salvation…thats your choice, for me I will rely on Jesus, and His Commandments in the New Covenant, and God’s Holy Ten Commandments….

    • Pastorbmiller

      Of the commandments repeated in the New Testament, the commandment to observe the Sabbath was the only one not repeated.

  • Edward

    it’s important to be in the church because you have a role to play, also God has called each and every of us to a church and we are suppose to remain under a pastor (a spiritual father) He has chosen for us.

    • Pastorbmiller

      Too many people simply go to church to see what they can get out of church. They don’t realize the impact they have on others simply by their presence. It can encourage a “weaker” Christian. It can encourage the pastor, etc. Church is not just a “buffet.” It is to help edify each other. I don’t know how many times I didn’t feel like going, but went anyhow. Boy, how God works when you aren’t expecting it! Church is important to Spiritual growth.






    • Guest

      Yes stand strong on the Godly word, not on something from pagan Rome of 1700 years ago, which the vast majority of “christians” are following based on false teachings and doctrine, without respect for the Holy Bible and the teachings of Jesus…as long as this is the case, there really is no common ground!

    • Eagle36

      Thank you for the kind and wise words PRECEPT.  I am not angry towards corngergas and I certainly do not hate him.  I tried to engage him in meaningful dialog in the comment section after a different article but all he did was keep attacking me (and others) and telling me that I was basically a false (wannabe) Christian because I worship on Sunday.  He kept telling me that I was relying on Paul for my Salvation because I worship on Sunday.  I (and others) quoted scripture contradicting his assertions and I even provided commentary about a scripture he was trying to use to prove his point, that completely went against his interpretation of it but he just claims he has the “correct” interpretation.  I even used Jesus’ own words about the Sabbath to try and make a point and he just ignored what I said and continued his attack.  Here is part of one of my quotes to him in the other discussion.
      When we make the Christian life all about the day we worship Jesus on, we make it about works and make an idol out of how we worship.  There were laws about the Sabbath in Jesus’ day and what did he do on the Sabbath?  What did Jesus teach about the Sabbath?

      “He (Jesus) answered, ‘Have you never read what David did when he and his companions were hungry and in need?  In the days of Abiathar the high priest, he entered the house of God and ate the consecrated bread, which is lawful only for priests to eat. And he also gave some to his companions.’  Then he said to them (the Pharisees), ‘The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.  So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.'”  (Mark 2:25-28)

      Life Application Notes for Mark 2:25-28 – “Jesus used the example of David to point out how ridiculous the Pharisees’ accusations were (this incident occurred in 1 Samuel 21:1-6).  God created the Sabbath for our benefit, not his own.  God derives no benefit from having us rest on the Sabbath, but we are restored both physically and spiritually when we take time to rest and to focus on God.  For the Pharisees, Sabbath laws had become more important than Sabbath rest.  Both David and Jesus understood that the intent of God’s law is to promote love for God and others.  When we apply a law to other people we should make sure that we understand its purpose and intent so we don’t make harmful and inappropriate judgments.”

      PRECEPT – I completely agree with you that arguments between believers causes damage to our witness and I try to avoid it as much as possible and that is why I asked others not to engage him in discussion because I know how he reacts.  If you scroll down in this comment section you will notice that some other people have tried to engage him respectfully and he just responds by attacking them.  I recognize in my own life that I went through a time where I responded to others in much the same way and I regret reacting to people in a similar fashion.  I have done what the Bible says in confronting him with truth a few times and now I have moved on because he has no desire to listen to me or anyone else.  I am not angry at him and I don’t hate him.  I love him as a brother in Christ and I pray that he is truly following Jesus.  It is not my place to execute judgment on his relationship with Jesus as he does with others and according to what the Scripture says about “judgment” I am concerned for his salvation, but I am not going to condemn him – I will love him and pray for him.  Thank you for your honest concern and your willingness to speak up.

  • Wes144

    Everyone needs to look at the big picture.

    From Eden to the Earth made new.

    Genesis 2:1 ¶ Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and
    all the host of them.

    2  And on the seventh day
    God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all
    his work which he had made.

    3  And God blessed the
    seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his
    work which God created and made.

    A Perfect God made this pronouncement in Ededn when everything was very good.

    The Sabbath and marriage were the 2 institutions that were given in Eden before sin entered. “Sin is the transgression of God’s Law.” 1John 3:4

  • Wes144

    The Sabbath was kept by Abraham, the Father of the Faithful.

    When the mixed multitude of slaves were freed from Egypt they were given the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath. Exodus 20:8-11

    As God clearly shows, the Sabbath is a Sign of His Creatorship, Savior from sin and bondage and His redemptive power.

    Why try to throw away and forget the One Commandments God said to Remember?

  • Wes144

    All of the faithful followers of God kept the Sabbath, Old and New Testament.

    Jesus, as Lord of the Sabbath, showed people how to keep the Sabbath, “It is well to do good on the Sabbath day.” Mark 3:4

    This is just one of numerous places that Jesus healed people on His Holy day. Jesus didn’t say the Sabbath was unimportant. He demonstrated how to keep the day holy, by doing good to help others. He also went to the synagogue every Sabbath. Luke 4:16

  • Wes144

    God is not arbitrary! He does not change! Malachi 3:6; Hebrews 13:8

    Remember to look at the big picture; from Eden to Eden restored.

    Everyone will keep the Sabbath in Heaven and in the new earth!

    Isaiah 66:22  For as the new
    heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the
    LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

    23  And it shall come to pass,
    that from one new moon to another, and from one Sabbath to another, shall all
    flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

  • Wes144

    Far beyond the 5 lies that are believed by Christians because they fail to do their homework, guided by the Holy Spirit is the idea that any of God’s Commandments don’t matter.

    Another as I said above is that God is arbitrary. There is one Plan of Salvation for every person that ever lived(s). It is the Everlasting Gospel! It does not change!
    Otherwise it would be the everchanging gospel!

    Everyone must look to the Cross of Calvary for Salvation through Christ alone!
    Those in the first 4,000 years looked forward to “The Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world.” John 1:29 The rest of us look back to the Cross and forward to His Coming in Glory!

  • Wes144

    Dispensational theology teaches that there are 7-8 plans of salvation! That is a lie!
    There is only One Savior! Jesus made it clear, “I Am the Way, The Truth, and The Life. No one comes to the Father, but by Me.” John 14:6

  • Wes144

    Rejecting God’s Commandments does not make anyone holy-just deluded.

    Trying to keep God’s Commandments on your own-misguided.

    Keeping God’s Commandments because you love Him and He empowers you=Right motivation and Right Power Source!

  • pastor Darrell

    Reference t “Lie # 5″: In John 15, Jesus speaks that He is “the true vine” (v.1) and that every branch in Him does not bear fruit, therefore He prunes it; He also instructs us to abide in Him, because we cannot bear fruit ourselves unless we abide in the Vine (vv.2 & 4); (vv.7-10) – “If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so prove to be My disciples. Just as the Father has loved Me, I also loved you; abide in My love. If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.”; and then Jesus completes this section of thoughts (vv.1-10) by telling His disciples (including us modern day disciples) WHY He just said these things — (v.11) “These things I have spoken to you so that My JOY may be in you, and that your JOY may be made full.” (emphasis added) (all Scriptures fron NASB)……Jesus never says that He said these things so that His “HAPPINESS” would be in us or that our “HAPPINESS” would be made full; instead, HE SPOKE OF HIS JOY AND OUR JOY!!! Happiness is temporal and is dictated by our circunstances & situations, trials & tribulations, gains & losses, etc. — BUT OUR JOY (OR LACK THEREOF) IS PERMANENTLY BASED UPON OUR RELATIONSHIP (OR NON-RELATIONSHIP) WITH OUR LORD & SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST!!!!! THEREFORE, HAPPINESS IS NOT GOD’S GOAL, DESIRE, OR PLAN FOR OUR LIVES WITH HIM, BECAUSE IT IS TEMPORARY, BUT HIS DESIRE, GOAL, AND PLAN FOR OUR LIVES IS TO HAVE JOY ETERNAL, THE JOY THAT COMES FROM JESUS CHRIST (V.11)!!!!!!!!!!!! AND ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, HE DESIRES THAT OUR JOY WILL “BE MADE FULL”!!!!!! ABUNDANT JOY THROUGH HIS ABUNDANT LOVE MADE POSSIBLE BY HIS ABUNDANT SACRIFICE BRINGS US THE ABUNDANT LIFE THAT GOD DESIRES FOR ALL OF HIS CHILDREN!!!!!        WOW!!!! THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR LOVE FOR US AND THE JOY YOU ALLOW US TO EXPERIENCE THROUGH YOUR ONLY BEGOTTEN SON JESUS CHRIOST!! IN HIS NAME I PRAY. AMEN.

  • Lee

    These are great observations. Thanks for writing the article!

    I wonder if implicit rejection of the Old Testament might also deserve to be on the list. It seems in practice the views of Marcion are still present in the church, just in updated form. Not that most evangelical believers would actually say as much. It’s just that in practice many believers seem to have a pretty low view of the OT. They don’t study it as much (as evidenced by the “dirt patterns” on the pages), and they generally don’t view it as authoritative.

    Mind you, I’m not talking about the ceremonial law, etc. I realize the New Covenant is different than the Old Covenant. But the Old Covenant is not the same thing as the Old Testament. We are New Covenant believers, but the Old Testament is still just as true and just as binding on us as on Old Covenant believers.

    All this to say that the old “the God of the Old Testament is different than the God of the New Testament” idea seems to be alive and well inside the church as well as outside. My experience in 20+ years of church ministry is that this notion, over time, wrecks lives and wrecks churches.

    • Modern Reject

      Great observation and certainly worthy of being called a lie that permeates much of Christian culture. If we say in one breath that God never changes and then in another question His character or actions in the OT then we are liars.

      Our God is the same then, now, and forever.

      Thanks for adding such a great point to the discussion.

      • Pat

        God hasn’t changed, but the way He deals with people has.

        • Modern Reject

          Pat, on the one hand, I understand what you are implying. Certainly Christ’s appearance on earth, death, and Resurrection changed the game, as it were. We are no longer under the old law. We are no longer slaves to sin, but slaves to righteousness.

          So yes, in certain ways God deals with us differently. He isn’t flooding the earth or sending down plagues. However, that is not to say that He does not deal personally and intimately with each and every believer just as He always has.

          We may not see the grand, visual, and miraculous type events on a daily basis that fill the Old Testament (and even much of the New), but we still have a God who disciplines His children, rebukes them, guides them, and occasionally asks us to do something seemingly crazy–like walk on water.

  • KeepJC1st

    Great article, Nicole!  I had just preached on 2 Timothy 3:6-17 this past Sunday, so used this article with a small group from Church to take the message a little further.  I had spoken about how important it is for us to know and understand the Bible so we can discern truth.  I read the article to the group, and then broke them up into groups of two, with each group taking one of the lies you mentioned.  I then gave them the task of finding verses or passages (gave them some Bible study tools) that would refute each lie, and reveal what is true.  We had a great time!  Thank you for sharing the talents and insight God has given you!
    IN Christ!

  • miriam

    am st still expecting more on the same issue. God bless u

  • Anthony Hubbard

    Let`s look at the lies that are told by the enemy of our soul,they always paint this picture GOD is not concern about us as people with simple needs and that what GOD`s offer is just to satisfy,fleeting moments of self indulgence,and that we are just mindless powerless sheep with no say-so in the work of reconciliation,and that fellowship with other believers is a waste of time,and not important,it sounds like that o`serpent who`s been saying the same thing since the book has been written, saying that GOD is not enough,He does`nt care,and you don`t mean much to GOD, when JESUS came He told us He would show us the Father  because He is the Way,Truth,and Life,it is only by Him we are to believe,most new testament believer are not new testament in receiving the truth,because the HOLY GHOST is not respected,or even followed we fall as prey in the the teeth of the wolves,spirit filled and spirit led are the keys to being free from the lies that saps the life and truth out of us.i pray that each born-again believer will come clean and go after GOD in CHRIST,and know the truth and be free.!!! amen

  • Crusades

    Top 5 Lies:  eMotions, They are The building blocks Of The Spirit Of Gad that grows within You by even measures Of fAith. So they are not to Be played with.
                      doctrines, They are winds we Are tossed ON to seek out the truth, growing pangs & propagandas
                      Knowledge, This, not knowing the answer to a much, can Be a loss By a so Little. Understanding is better sought fOr as Wisdoms may fade.
                      Height, This is Your stature, can Be indirectly related to eMotion, The Your very OWN Celebration Of Your fAith is that Of your stature. We need not a grove nor  a celebratory stature other than the contentedness of spirit we possess.
                      Tigers, yet counted 27 Of the Great Rare Cats, The Tiger is sure to lash out against The Lion as it Too is Cat species, evenso to fatale curiosity. Rare is it that these 2 cats pass each others paths. The Lion…Tempered Spirit in His Own Domain. Will The leopard ever change its spots? as for the oars of panthers and pumas. God never lost his Way.

  • Archiepennington

    Being a pastor, I went to visit a dear member of our church who hadn’t been there for a while (it was hunting season).  He told me that he could worship God in His beautiful creation just as well as in the church building.  I told him “of course you can, but do you?”  Do you sit in the deer stand and sing praises to the King; do you meditate on His Holy Word; do you bow your head in a relational conversation in prayer, or do you just sit there waiting for Bambi’s father to come along.   He grinned because he knew he didn’t really go there to worship God, but for other reasons.  That’s why we all need to go to church, to be with our fellow brothers in Christ and encourage each other in growing in our relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • Myplace58

       I like that. May I copy.

  • Christian Illustrator

    Blimey…tough read.  Always thought God wanted me to be happy and I didn’t need to go to church.  Still working on it.

  • Mikki Rice

    Proverbs 15:13 – A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken.Proverbs 15:15 – All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast.Proverbs 17:22 – A merry heart doeth good like a medicine: but a broken spirit drieth the bones.
    Ecclesiastes 9:7 – Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.Psalm 30:35 – For his anger endureth but a moment; in his favour is life: weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning.Psalm 32:11 – Be glad in the LORD, and rejoice, ye righteous: and shout for joy, all ye that are upright in heart.Luke 2:10 – And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.Luke 6:23 – Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.John 15:11 – These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.John 17:13 – And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.Acts 2:28 – Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.Romans 15:13 – Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.Galatians 5:21-22 – 22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
    Jude 1:24 – Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
    The word ‘joy’ (and all it’s derivatives) appear in the Bible 186 times.  I think it’s safe to say that God wants His children to be more than happy but to be joyful: “…that our joy may be full.”
    The word ‘rejoice’ (and all it’s derivatives) appear 240 times.  “Let us be glad and rejoice…”

  • Josiah222


    Good read . . . wish you had used a King James Bible instead of multiple versions that reveal contradictions and cause confusion.  Satan has well over 230 counterfeit bibles in English that have reeked havoc. 

    Genesis 3:1 [“Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, . . .”] is still operative in Satan’s arsenal.  As a matter of fact, it is still one of the first tools that the Devil uses to everyone off on the wrong foot. 

    In your very first point you used “teaching” instead of sound doctrine because you were using a bible that changed doctrine to teaching.  They are not the same! That same version attacks the deity of Christ, His incarnation, His sinless life, His blood atonement etc.  It is so subtle (see: Genesis 3:1) . . .

    Much of what you said was true, but the “seeds” of destruction are sown from the get go . . . . by using a counterfeit bible!  God promised to perserve His Words . . . not just the message!  He puts His Word above His Name! 

    [Psa. 138:2 – “. . . for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.”]


    • Justin
      • Just a guy

        Do you not think that in a few hundred years people, with constant study, would gain a better understanding of how others talked thousands of years. Different version also use different translating methods. If you want the ward in its original form you NEED to spend a few years of your life studying Greek and hebrew. ALL english versions mess it up in one way or another. The important part is that we can get nearly the entire text with clarity. Any time there is an issue though Bible scholars cross reference different translations and do a word study in the original language. 

    • Todd

      Uh, really?  That is what you got out of this article?  Sorry to break it to you, but the Greek word used in this passage is didaskalias which IS properly translated as “teaching”.  In truth, the English word doctrine and teaching are the same in the mind of the editors of the KJV.  I assume you think the KJV is the only true Bible.  How sad for you.

    • jesusgraceandtruth

      I love this..God bless you sir!

    • Joe Rhoads

      Here’s a seventh lie that some Christians believe: that God chose King James English as the only proper language to translate the Hebrew and Greek into. Of course, since there are MULTIPLE King James Versions in existence, one has to wonder which one Josiah222 is using. I have seen a King James Version bible printed in the mid 1600s. It is unreadable by modern English speakers but it uses terms not in use today and it uses spellings that most English speakers have never seen. No where, absolutely no where does God promise to preserve His Words in a particular translation. Your attack on other translations of the Bible by saying they attack the deity of Christ, etc have been so thoroughly discredit by credible scholars (like James White), that holding onto your position is becoming embarrassing. Let me ask, do you require non-English speakers to learn English so that they can read (from your perspective) the correct Version? You must, because you cannot translate the King James Version into a non-English language, because once you do, it ceases to be the King James Version.

    • pw73gc

      Do a real study and you will discover that all other versions contradict each other. KJV all the way! What a lie the devil has used on many people. You are blinded because you will not study it out. I have.

  • brother Roy (alias Broy)

    I really thought that God wants me to be happy in everything i do(ministry),able to be more effective. Verily God want us to be pure, holy, faithful, carry cross, etc.
    Pls pray for me.

  • Noel Baron

    I’m sorry that you woke up and felt helpless and alone. If Church fixed that for you, that’s wonderful. But to call these points “Lies” is nothing more than judgmental arrogance which is pervasive among evangelicals these days. I’m a person who spent 25 years as a born again Christian, only to find that my connection to and my awareness of God changed for the better when I dropped religion entirely and focused on the spiritual. What works for you is not what works for everyone, and it’s dangerous to suggest other people with different ideas are “liars”, but hey… you’ve got 100+ comments so at least you are pleasing your fellowship. Unfortunately you’ve alienated folks like me, when I suspect you were hoping to reach us.

    • called_out

      Quick with the judgmental, aren’t you? That is the first offense a non-believer will throw at a professed believer (every single time). Was that judgmental of me? As for “Lies”, what are they? A lie is a false statement. Therefore, based on that definition, all five points are lies when compared with scripture. You can dance around it all you want and call those with whom you disagree judgmental, but you can never change the word of God.

      • Ryan

        I agree with Noel. My awareness changed for the better when I dropped religion entirely and focused only on Him. Church is not necessary. Christianity is not about going to church and getting to heaven. It is about having the relationship with God that Adam and Eve lost, and was restored by the blood of Christ. God freed me from slavery to sin when I was 5. At 42, God freed me from the mental slavery to the institution.

  • Dan George

    I know this post took place a year ago but the church is anywhere you are at with others.
    I have seen so many brick and mortor bldg empty with the spirit full of gossip and hatefulness and never prospers. The message week after week is always the same and where the Pastor is commanding you to give your ten percent rather than rely on God to lead. I seen more Godliness and Faithfulness being part of the Navigator ministry. I was educated in ways you could not conceive in a Godless church and everyone turned their homes into Bible study discipleship training facilities and we were much closer than those who race in and out of church like it was an Olympic sport never knowing anyone there.

  • Chris Appleby

    Hi Nicole,

    I wholeheartedly endorse your five points. In terms of happiness, a short reading of the end of Hebrews 11 should remove that misconception.

    In terms of lay leadership I was disappointed that you suggested God calls ordinary men to do His extraordinary work.I would have thought that God also calls ordinary women to do His extraordinary work. I hope that’s just a blindspot from years of hearing ‘man’ as a universal but it’s time we worked out that most people don’t hear it that way any more.

  • Hein

    the lie that the church should be “run” like a business – that’s the biggest and causes the most hurt

  • Teretha Thornton

    The article was interesting. I watched a video last night and the message was how Christians will be going to hell. Before jumping all over me let me share how I interpreted it. It ties in with five lies the church believe. I think one of the biggest lies is going to church and salvation are the same thing. There are to many in church who spoke the sinners prayer and are their every time the doors open. They however are some of the meanest, nastiest people you would never want to meet. There are some in church who are steeped in the same sins for too many years. They know old things have passed away but that is just the way I am and God understands.I understand if you repent of your sins it means you turn away from them and don’t go back and pick them up because you are so weak. To many believe the lie that the pastor is responsible for their salvation. They have heard work out your own salvation with fear and trembling but they don’t quite understand what that means. They have have been told as have we all to search the scriptures so they will know but that is what the pastor is for. I am not judging or trying to tell anyone how to live their lives. I am saying however that you must daily check yourself out by the Word so you can know the truth and be set free..Remember in the Garden of Eden Eve listened to a lie from the serpent and passed it own to Adam who had known God longer than her and they both ate of it contrary to what God had spoke to them. They were put out of the Garden. The Word lets us know Jesus Christ the same today, yesterday and forever. Lies and sins are not part of the program. In Jesus Name

  • Simon MacOnyango

    Lovely Article

  • Cathcart Boy

    I came to this article with sceptcism – sensationalist headline created suspicion. Must say scepticism was unjustified. Very good piece

  • Cliff Richardson

    “It’s cliche, but man is it true: God is more concerned with our holiness than our happiness.” – what’s interesting about this is that I just read (and reviewed on my blog) Judah Smith’s book Jesus Is __: Finding a New way to be human. He says exactly the opposite – “God is more concerned with our happiness than our holiness.” My review of his book was not complimentary.

    Thank you for this post. You are definitely right that Christians often believe these lies. The sad truth is that the lie draws in thousands to mega churches everywhere. What does it say about us that we are so willing to believe the lie?

  • Richard UK

    Thank you for this gentle and useful piece; one point only

    You write “His sacrifice demands a response”. ‘Demands’ is a dangerous word. Do you mean

    A. A response of obedience etc is the only ‘proper’ way for ‘true’ Christians to live. Thus to fail to obey is to reject Him, or to cast doubt on one’s salvation. This view is very, very common, although put very subtly so that it is not see as the ‘law’ that it really is – as if a parent said ‘I gave you a great birthday outing yesterday, so the least you can do now is clean your room’.

    B. His sacrifice is ‘worthy of’ a response. This sounds very similar to A, but now the emphasis is on Him and not on us. And it is from that nuance that Holy Spirit-led obedience flows – naturally, with love, gratitude, even discipline, but never forced. Holiness/morality never takes us further into God; pressing further into gospel freedom is what brings on the quiet Christlike-ness that we are barely ourselves aware of (for if we are, then it has been of our own making)

  • Jeff Stockford

    I think the #1 lie Christians believe is that 1 John 1:9 is addressing believers. This is the verse many hang their hat on. It is the only verse in the entire New Testament that mentions confessing sin in order to receive forgiveness. If you study the context of the entire chapter you will realize that John is addressing unbelievers. To paraphrase, John is chapter 1 is declaring… Jesus, whom we have seen, touched… we proclaim to you also so that you can know Him too and have fellowship with us. The letter to the believers follow this “preamble” in verse 1 of chapter, when he says, “My little children…” Forgiveness happened at the cross! You do not ask for what you already have. To do so is unbelief. When we sin, we simply need to recognize that we have an advocate with the Father. If we were not declared completely righteous, we could not have any fellowship with God. Confession means saying the same thing as… If we agree with God in saying that we are a sinner in need of a Savior, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us of all our sins and cleanse of ALL unrighteousness. All means all! Believing that this is written to the believer keeps Christians on the hamster wheel of a confession obsession. This keeps believers in a constant sin awareness instead of a righteousness awareness. We are forgiven! After the cross it is 100% past tense.

    • jalvarado

      Excellent comment, never heard it like that!

    • Matthew

      Sorry Brother, but 1 John 1:2 immediately following the verse you mention directly contradicts your point: “1 John 2:1-2 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. ”

      He is writing to his “children”, an affectionate term of a spiritual father. His purpose is that they
      might not sin. He then says that if anyone does sin, Jesus is the atoning sacrifice for “our” ( not someone else’s) sins, PLUS for the sins if the world.

      Thus the
      Passage applies to Christians.

      • Javin

        Actually, you’re incorrect (sort-of). 1 John 1:9 is being written to the
        church, yes. However, it is being written to dispel what the Gnostics
        were teaching the people. The Gnostics were telling them that they
        didn’t need Jesus, that they had no sin nature, and that Jesus wasn’t
        God. These “anti-Christs” as John explains further in the chapter were
        telling the people of the day that their salvation was insecure. John
        explains why he is writing this ENTIRE letter to them – to assure them
        of their eternal life. So, He starts off the chapter by refuting what
        they had been teaching! “If you say you have no sin…” “He is faithful
        and just to forgive us ALL unrighteousness” etc. He is explaining the
        salvation process!

        Don’t believe me? Read it yourself and look
        at verses like 1 John 2:12 – I’m writing to you because your sins have
        been forgiven (past tense). And if we sin? You’re salvation is still
        secure because of Christ who has imputed his righteousness to you (He is
        our advocate).

        This verse is absolutely NOT for the believer
        but a better understanding of history reveals this is describing the
        salvation experience while refuting the Gnostic of the day and others
        who were trying to derail the work John had done.

        Do some
        historical study first and then re-read 1 John. You’ll see it in a whole
        new light. John wasn’t writing this to the 21 century American church
        although we benefit from it greatly.

        • oldman2331

          From my studies I believe you are correct. Context = .It is a rebuking of Gnostic notion (I refrain from calling it belief as it may somehow give unwarranted validation to its theology). I would further offer it is a ‘PATTERN’ for rebuking ‘false teachings” in the context of the love of a spiritual leader/teacher.
          AND as each of us is “commissioned” it is actually a very practical tool . It proves the pattern for correcting believers toward the narrow path.

    • Jim

      What do you do with John 20 where Jesus gives the disciples and the church the task and responsibility of forgiving sins and withholding forgiveness? Or what about Matthew 18, where Jesus says, “If your brother sins against you…” and then concludes it with “Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

      What a great comfort confession is that when we feel guilty, we can go to someone and confess our sins. And God is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. While I agree that we are completely righteous through the blood of Christ, we also sin. God is gracious enough to give us a means to relieve the guilt we might feel through forgiveness spoken by a person as commanded by Christ himself.

    • Pastor Jerry

      My brother, what about James 5:13-16? It’s not just focusing on the sick being healed but the carnally and sin infected being recovered as well. Really the whole passage is an instructional to the church not the world. John 8:31-32 Jesus tells us if we continue in His Word, then are we disciples, and disciples know the truth and are free in that truth of continuing their pursuit of Jesus.
      The popular doctrine of the day attempts to cover sin by dismissing it. Like it doesn’t exist, but it is only by the transformative power of real Grace manifested in the person of Jesus that doesn’t just dismiss the acts of sin from off us but cleanses us from the sin nature and releases a freedom that changes our desires.

  • Vincent Aja

    (1) There are more lies that Christians do believe but will never work…, and some of them are to believe that the Old Testament is for the Jews and not for Christians, and I do wonder what kind of book that the Apostles were using to preach on before the Bible was put together by the early Church fathers (Acts 17:11)(2Timothy 4:13). (2) That the Kingdom of God has been taken away from the Jews and was given to the Gentiles, because the Jews have rejected Christ Jesus. This went contrary to the EVERLASTING COVEANT that God has made with Abraham, and the Lord Jesus is that Seed of Abraham who is to make this covenant to become a reality (Genesis 12:1-3)(Mathew 1:1)(Luke 1:67-80)(Acts 28:20)(Romans 3,1-2,11:1-31). (3) When a preacher is preaching on the GRACE of God and at the same time blaming the Jews for the death of Jesus Christ. Here the religious leaders with the “consent” of the Gentiles represented by the Roman authorities brought the Word of God to pass, yet Christians were still grieved against the Jews just like if Christ Jesus has never risen from the death (Isaiah 53)(John 19:10)(Acts 4:26-28). (5) Christians calling Judaism a “Cult.” What a SHAME!!! That we Christians will be so drifted to call the religion that God gave to Moses and all the Prophets and the Lord Jesus and the Apostles followed the same rule to worship the Living a “Cult” (Exodus 25:40)(Hebrews 8 :5). How can this be forgiven when we as Christians have failed to understand that everything about the Kingdom of God has been settled before the coming of the Lord Jesus? (Isaiah 2:1-5,66:124)(Ezekiel 40-48). This is just to mention some of the lies, and I do hope that every Christian should return back to the truth of the Bible if we were to agree in the doctrine of the “Trinity” meaning that the God of Israel that we proclaim today is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob of whose seed Christ Jesus came in the flesh. The truth remained that whosoever curses the Jews will be cursed and whosoever blesses the Jews will be blessed this is EVERLASTING COVEANANT. People should be begin to learn what COVENANT means, and not only follow what Dr. Martin Luther gave the Church as the “Reformation.”

    • Sung Kim

      The only thing I would change on this (as I agree with nearly all of it) is the last line about “Dr. Martin Luther”. To my knowledge, Martin Luther did not hold any type of advanced degree, certainly not a doctoral one, per se. Unless you’re referring to Dr. Martin Luther King but you mentioned the Reformation so I’m confused. By all means, please correct me if I’m wrong.

    • Sung Kim

      I stand corrected. He did receive his doctorate. Pardon me. :)

  • Timothy Leyian

    God is gracious and forgiving. i thank God for imparting church leaders

  • alexander

    Loved this article. Christians need to re-read the last one. There is no command “be ye happy.” But there is a command “Be ye holy!”
    One other lie id add to this is the popular interpretation of the command to love your neighbor as yourself. Currently we interpret it to mean that we ought to love ourselves and then we love others. But even psychological studies show us that we love others FIRST and thus learn how to love ourselves.

  • Tam

    Enjoyed the list. Other lies some Christians believe: 1. Skin color determines the worth of a human being, 2. God prefers to minister to His people through men 3. Jesus’ return can actually be pin pointed to a date and time. God made males and females in an array of colors: no one person is loved more by Him than another. And only God knows when Jesus will be returning; He has not revealed that information to anyone.

  • Webby

    Well, read most all comments…the issue isn’t lies…article is good…it’s obvious, what we have is not what Jesus wanted, John 17….”that they be one…so the world knows u sent me. Unity! But unless God’s word is understood, no unity. Simple comment by Brother about O.T. …of course the Old Testament is useful, but, Christins aren’t über old covenant, read Hebrews…obsolete! We are in Christian system, otherwise we’d be at temple sacrificing.
    Happiness?? Not hardly, contentment, by all means!
    One of biggest lies, a person can be saved and not be obedient to God’s Word….”Go therefore make disciples, baptizing them….teach them to obey all I have commanded.” You figure out the prevalent lie in this????

  • Reginald

    Awesome Article!!!

  • Vince

    Very profound… Yes.. very true. These lies is what is circulating to many churches these days.

  • nyima

    We should not be joyful always we must focus on some suffering or fear the future otherwise when unexpected disaster comes we will not be able to accept or face it is the lies taught by my parents but it was only recently i came to know that Righteousness,peace,joy and the holy ghost thats the kingdom of god.The joy of the lord is my strength and the bible says ‘Rejoice in the lord always’.

  • Roland

    God gives us the gift of joy which is happiness multiflied by a thousand and one times over.

  • gw

    II Corinthians 11:3 But
    I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his
    subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is
    in Christ.

  • Deana Callins

    Psalm 55:18 (He) has “delivered my soul” in peace from (“The Battle”) that was ‘against’ me: for there were (many) ‘against me. ((((in this passage their are key areas “David” calls out that caused his unrestfulness))))
    Because of “the voice” of the enemy, because of “the oppression” of the wicked: for they “cast iniquity” upon me, and “in wrath” they hate me. Psalm 55:2-4
    “My heart” is sore pained (within) me: and the “Terrors” of death are fallen upon me.
    Psalm 55:3-5
    The devil tries to attack you when your (weak). There are many ways of attacks. Like there are many types of spirits. He certainly will not have the advantage IF your “Strong In The Word/Lord & In The Faith”. It’s like a “Light” that flickers. It tells you that the “Power Source or Outlet” is having trouble. Believers & Receivers are the “Light” of this world. If we are not careful & watchful concerning our “Soul’s well-being(emotions) we have troubles. Which result in a “Lack of Peace”; always located inside of you. The Soul is were we should be in Good Health.
    As a Living Witness and servant of The Testimony of God the father and our Lord Jesus Christ. These are the things “He Spoke” to Help have the advantage (over) spiritual attacks.
    Watch what you allow to “Enter” (INto) your soul. “The door ways” are your eyes and ears.
    Be careful of your surroundings. Alot of our troubles come from the company we keep. (The word says, Try the spirit). I’ve been taught by the Holy Spirit about “Sounds” as well. Certain sounds are good like spiritual songs that have the word in them. Quietness for good meditation. Even the sound of water moving ‘slowly are some examples. Some bad “Sounds” are; most of what you “hear on the news, or gossip, arguing, cursing etc. Seeing it also causes unrestfulness within your “Soul”. To Live In Peace. It is all about the “Choices” we make. I hope this finds you well. Stay prayerful; saints.

  • Deana Callins

    Psalm 52 Why boastest thou (((Thyself)))) in mischief, O mighty man? “The Goodness of God Endureth Continually”.
    2 (The tongue) devise mischiefs; (like) a sharp razor, (working deceitfully).
    3 Thou love evil “more” than good; and lying rather than to (Speak) Righteousness. Selah.
    4 Thou love all devouring (words), O thou deceitful (tongue).
    5 God shall likewise destroy thee for ever, he shall take thee away, and pluck thee out of thy (dwelling place), and root thee out of the land of the living. Selah.
    6 The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him:
    7 Lo, this is the (man) that “made not” God his strength; but trusted in the abundance (of his) riches, and strengthened (himself) in his wickedness.
    8 But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever.
    9 I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; “for it is good” before thy saints.

  • Grady Walton

    A very helpful article. As a Christian for decades, I still occasionally wonder what “abundant life” looks like for most of us in the pews. Without using churchspeak or cliches, I’d love to hear what others think it looks like in this life.

    • Dennis Steinmetz

      The abundant life is accessible only when we step out in faith. We begin to achieve it by grabbing hold of something God says and doing it. Doing it is rewarded by grace, and another word; we do that and we are rewarded by grace and perhaps by another word. Somewhere along the way we are tested so we can see where our heart is toward God- the devil will speak to us loudly at this time and mess with our emotions- but we must choose to have faith in God’s love and faithfulness. We will find out where we stand with God, and the test may need to be repeated until we learn the lesson to rely only upon Him. This will continue as our life is enriched by our knowledge of Him. Somewhere in this process we will recognize that we are living the abundant life, as evidenced by our recognition of His power in our life. But we need to check ourselves, test ourselves to see if we are in the faith, and not in a counterfeit manifestation often.

  • Josh Blackmun

    Good read. would have been better if each point was actually backed with scripture, but true nonetheless.

  • Sam

    Interesting, but some points are not convincing. Too many local churches have shot themselves in the foot, so “church” has rendered itself unnecessary. Christians once met in the Catacombs, now they are meeting online. Teaching, prayer, fellowship, service and giving are all part of those communities and meet all the biblical requirements. Only the politics and pettiness found in virtually all local churches is missing.

    I think your point about leadership also misses the target. Most churches have a de facto ingrained leadership, and fresh leaders and new ideas are often discouraged. There is a power structure in every local church, and the end goal of all such structures is to stay in power. I am all for a biblical idealism in this regard, but reality is potent.

  • grampataxy

    There is another lie many Christians believe I think is just as wrong even blasphemous. It is that God hates …(fill on the blank with any people group). God is love the Bible says in 1John. To say He hates anyone goes against His very character. The only thing He hates is sin.

    • Chris McCarthy


      across America today students are crying out I don’t want to go to school. I
      HATE school! Well, those words seem a bit harsh but if we are being honest I
      hated school too. It was not a happy place for me as a kid. I was teased and
      made to feel stupid by children as well as teachers, and that was just last
      year when I was picking up my son… No, not really. Although school for some students brings a
      strong emotion of hatred. They are not loved and respected, honored and cared
      for. This is our topic today. If we were made in God’s image does He hate.
      Could He hate someone or something?

      I have heard it said repeatedly, “God loves us all so much that He will save us
      all”; or “He hates the sin, but loves the sinner”;(Mahatma
      Gandhi not God) or “God is love, and will not send anyone to hell.” I tell you the truth that God is love but is
      not only love. That is a one sided view of God that is very unhealthy.

      So the Question still
      remains…DOES GOD HATE ANYONE? Let’s look at His own word.

      The answer is yes.

      Psalm 5:5, “The boastful
      shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,”

      Psalm 11:5, “The Lord
      tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul

      Lev. 20:23, “Moreover, you
      shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you,
      for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them.”

      Prov. 6:16-19, “There are six
      things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17Haughty
      eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A
      heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A
      false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers.”

      Hosea 9:15, “All their
      evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because
      of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love
      them no more; All their princes are rebels.”

      is defined as an intense dislike; the
      object of extreme aversion or hostility. Not one of those is a sin. God is
      still Holy and righteous even by this human definition of hate.

      Now, God is love (1 John 4:8), but God also
      punishes the sinner and hates all who do iniquity. God is not one sided. He is
      not a fluffy kitten on a plush pillow; He is God, the creator of the universe. He
      is also infinitely just. He must deal with sin. He must punish the sinner. He
      is a roaring lion, with teeth and claws and we are all sinners who have fallen
      very short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23)

      In God’s
      word, we find that the Lord has provided one way by which we may be saved from
      His wrath. But God demonstrates his own love for
      us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) While
      God’s wrath was still against us He sent His son to be the sacrifice, or the
      payment for our sin.
      For all who trust in Him, salvation will come. But to those who turn away,
      God’s wrath will surly fall upon them: “He who believes in the Son has
      eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the
      wrath of God abides on him,” (John 3:36).

      you have not confessed with your mouth that Jesus is the son of God and
      believed in your heart that no one can get to the father except through Jesus,
      (Roman 10:, John 14:6) then take time right now and do so. Salvation is yours
      for the taking. I wish that no one experience God’s wrath. Please today talk
      with someone close to you that is a Christ follower or call our church today
      and we will walk through the life giving grace of God through His Son.

  • Grady Walton

    6. Denominations are bad.
    7. Independent churches are bad.
    8. A personality-driven church is bad. (Wait, that one is true . . . never mind.)
    9. All Christian men play golf, and play it well.
    10. All Christian women (with the exception of my wife) excel in home arts. (Such as: baking pies, quilting, growing vegetables, canning vegetables, making jam, home decorating, and brewing killer coffee for husband.)
    11. Homeschooling your children is a cult.
    12. Traditional schooling for your children is bad parenting.
    13. All Baptists don’t drink alcohol.
    14. All Catholics do.
    I crack me up:-)

    • Sung Kim

      funny…lol. Thanks for the chuckle, Brother Grady!

    • chelseachablis

      yOu CrAcK mE uP tOo!!!

  • batangpaslit

    as long as believers allow the Holy Spirit to operate in their lives, lies would be exposed
    the Third Person of GOD is likewise the Spirit of Truth.

  • Sean

    Thanks for that! But have you read “Desiring God” by John Piper? Relevant to your last point – the only one I’d put differently. Peace!

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  • GaryColville

    Good article. Grampataxy, I appreciate your intention but it would do you well to look up the other occasions where God says he hates, surprising as it may be the popular view that he only hates sin is not true.

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  • Vincent Aja

    In my first contribution I have listed too many other lies that were “Alienating”
    God from keeping to His promises to the Church. And there is the reason to
    understand this because the Hope of Israel is a COVENANT KEEPING GOD, and He is also the GOD OF PRINCIPLE (Exodus 6:1-6). So what drove Adam and Eve away from the Garden of Eden was that they could not obey His Word (Genesis 2:17). So
    likewise in this “Dispensation” the Lord Jesus has tabled what we should do
    before we can be happy, and it has nothing to do with the carnal knowledge.
    Here it is stated and it`s balanced:

    1 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him:2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, 3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.4 Blessed are they
    that mourn: for they shall be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall
    inherit the earth.6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for
    righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you,and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you
    falsely, for my sake.12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven(Mathew 5:1-16).
    When we do what God says in His Word, then God will do what He says that He will do in His Word. Happiness, Joy,Love and Peace cannot be found elsewhere, nobody can offer any of these to us neither can they be taken away from us that believed. Rather, they come to us as rewards when we diligently walk and obey the Word of God and not our different denominations (Hebrews 11:6).

  • Deana Callins

    There is Only “One God & One Lord” Who are “One Together”
    Mark 10:42-43
    But Jesus called them to him, and said to them, Ye know that they which are Considered Rulers (over) the Gentiles “exercise lordship” (meaning superior or above) over them; and their (great ones) “exercise authority” on them. But so shall it (Not Be) “among you”: but whosoever will be great among you, shall be your minister(a servant, to give help):
    Isaiah 48:12-14 Mine hand also have laid “The Foundation” of the earth, and my right hand have spanned the heavens: (when I call to them), “They Stand up Together”.
    Isaiah 13:8-10 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy (the sinners) thereof “out of it”.
    Isaiah 13:10-12 And I will punish (the world) ‘for their evil, and (the wicked) for their iniquity; and I will cause (the arrogancy) of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the (terrible).
    Isaiah 14:3-7 And it shall come to pass in the day that the Lord shall give thee “Rest” (from) thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the (hard bondage) wherein you was made to “serve”, That you shall take up this proverb (against) the king of Babylon, and say, How have the oppressor ceased! the golden (City) ceased!
    5 The Lord hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the (rulers).
    6 He who smote (the people) in wrath with a continual stroke, he that (ruled) the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hinder it.
    7 “The whole earth” is at (Rest), and is (quiet): they break forth into singing.

  • Deana Callins

    Isaiah 14:17-18 That made “the world” as a wilderness, and destroyed the (cities) thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners? (All) the kings of the nations, even (all) of them, “Lie in Glory”, every one (in) his own house.
    Isaiah 14:13-16
    For thou hast said (in) thine “heart”(character &nature), I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne (above) the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the (“Congregation”), in the sides of the north:
    14 I will ascend (above) the heights of the clouds; I will be (like) the most High.
    15 Yet “you shalt be brought down to hell”, to the sides (of) the pit.
    16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this (the man) that made “the earth” to (tremble), that did shake kingdoms;
    Isaiah 13:3-4
    I have COMMANDED “my sanctified ones,” I have also “called” my mighty ones for mine anger, even (them) that rejoice in my highness.
    “The noise” of a multitude in the mountains, like as of a great people; a tumultuous (noise) of the kingdoms of nations gathered together: “The Lord of Hosts” mustereth the host of “The Battle”.

  • Ryan

    As far as the “happy’ thing goes, if you put the fruits of the Spirit’s ‘joy’ and ‘peace’ together, I think that would equal ‘happy’.
    When it comes to Christians being ‘good’, if you look at the fruits of the Sprit’s ‘goodness’ and ‘kindness’ together, I think that should answers that one.

    • jd

      i count it all joy when i suffer persecution, you think they were happy getting beat or did they have joy knowing God and doing his will

      • Ryan

        The bad thing about a post like this is it gives the impression that if your happy, you must be doing something wrong. Your not suppose to be happy. If your not suffering and miserable, you must not be being obedient to God. Yes, count it all joy if persecution comes from being a Christian but count it all joy when your going through good times of no suffering and thank God for it. The time will come when we get old and suffer with disease, cancer and stuff that will eventually kill us. Be happy and enjoy youth and good health while we have it. Thank God for the good days and maybe He will work things to lengthen those.

        • Modern Reject

          To further clarify, in no way do I suggest that if you are a happy person you are doing something wrong. I’m a happy person. I love life, but I don’t expect Jesus to insulate me from hard or difficult things.

          I know that a life spent following Him is not the guarantee of an easy life. Nor do I believe God owes me anything–the point I was making. Many American Christians believe that God owes them a job, a pay raise, a new car, a bigger home, a good marriage, healthy kids, etc but that is not true.

          He owes us nothing.

    • Modern Reject


      While I understand your point, a Christian thinking they need to “be good” is not the same as the fruit of the Spirit. Goodness refers to us reflecting the goodness of God Himself. These are two very different ideas.

      To steal a quote from A.W. Tozer in his book The Knowledge of the Holy:

      “The goodness of God is that which disposes Him to be kind, cordial, benevolent, and full of good will toward men. He is tenderhearted and of quick sympathy, and His unfailing attitude toward all moral beings is open, frank, and friendly.”

      WHile God delights in us being happy, I believe, He does not promise us or guarantee us happiness. And his goodness exists despite that fact.

  • solomon

    The lie of the prosperity gospel. The lie of works to earn God’s favour. The lie of imposing jewish laws, traditions and customs on gentile christians.

    • Sung Kim

      outstanding additions to the list!

    • Stephen Abbott

      The first one’s right. The other two are straw men. No one is doing this.

      • Tony

        They may not be saying it outright, but they are acting as if they are true….

        • Tony

          my apologies Stephen…..I thought you were talking about the article. I realize that you were talking about solomon’s comment. No argument here.

          • Stephen Abbott

            Thanks. I should have been clearer about that.

      • ed

        Are you kidding? People always have, and always will be “doing this.” Have you ever heard, for example, of the “Hebrew Roots Movement”?

        • Stephen Abbott

          I have not heard of this, ed, and I bet most people have not. I literally know of no mass movement advocating that all Gentiles obey Jewish laws, and frankly, that’s not historically accurate, either. “God-fearers” were always only required to obey Noahide laws, which is hinted at in the “Jerusalem Council” in Acts. And in truth, Paul got no special dispensation here, he was just told what the tradition had always been.

  • Ziggie

    Regarding # 1 Lie “Church is not important” wherein you have stated you believed that lie, and that church is important. I think church is important, where as we need fellowship, and preaching of the word for strength. But what about those in circumstances where attending church is not an option? Sickness, caretakers..does that mean that those that can’t attend have to carry that guilt? I think not. Sometimes those very Christians that are faithful to every service forget those that can’t be there..just my experience.

    • Modern Reject

      While I acknowledge your heart in considering those unable to attend church, those individuals represent the exception, not the rule.

      Not to mention the fact that church is not a building or a place we go, but rather US, the people of God. Those who are ill or unable to leave their home are still the church, the same as you and me. The body of believers should be just as committed to and engaged with their lives as any other church member.

    • Stephen Abbott

      What’s actually not important is massive, expensive church BUILDINGS.

  • Vincent Aja

    The Salvation Of God Is A Very Big Risk Thing That Nobody Should Live It In The Hands Of Others….
    I wish that somebody should tell every Christian to stop deceiving themselves by hoping that Christianity could be independent of Judaism or that the Gentiles have been favored by God more the Jews. What nobody would want to tell we the Gentiles is that some people have believed that IF the gospel is left or preached as it was, the Jews will be superior to them. With this they found a way to say that the Kingdom has been taken away from the Jews and be given to the Gentiles. Others were saying that the Law was abolished and now we have a New Covenant which they were using the word Church to promote. It is totally wrong because the children of Israel has been the FIRST CHURCH (ACTS 7:38), we the Gentiles have only joined that Church, the Kingdom of God has no two Churches but one (1Peter 2:9-10).The truth is that there is NO POWER in the Church today because the theologians have created an ALTERNATIVE RELIGION in the form of Christianity while using the name of the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL as a substitute. This has been the reason why there is no UNITY since the days of REFORMATION (John 17).To whosoever wants to listen, please the LAW THAT WAS ABOLISHED FOR THE GENTILES WAS THE CIRCUMICISION SO TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THE GENTILES TO PARTAKE IN THE COURSE OF THE GOSPEL. Someone should read the book of ACTS 15. I am not saying that the Gentiles should go back to LAW, but the idea where everybody is talking about LEGALITY is very WRONG. People do not want to read or study the Bible, and will keep believing everything they were told. Someone should read this text from the book of Ephesians. It was from the same book of the Ephesians that every WRONG DOCTRINES was taken to BIULD “THE SOCIAL GOSPEL” WHICH.WALTER RAUSCHENBUSCH GAVE TO THE BAPTIST IN THE 30S. This Walter Rauschenbusch is s student of a German theologian Albrecht Ritschl. Let me just say, Salvation of the Lord Jesus is based on OBEYING what God says in His Word and has nothing to do with what one says (Luke 6:46)(John 8:31). Here again is what the Apostle Paul wrote regarding the Gentiles` position in the NEW COVENANT which nobody wants to listen to.

    11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ..14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone (Ephesians 2:11-20). It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things (Romans 15:27).

  • Vincent Aja

    The Salvation Of God Is A Very Big Risky Thing That Nobody Should Leave It In The Hands Of Others….
    I wish that somebody should tell every Christian to stop deceiving themselves by hoping that Christianity could be independent of Judaism or that the Gentiles have been favored by God more the Jews. What nobody would want to tell we the Gentiles is that some people have believed that IF the gospel is left or preached as it was, the Jews will be superior to them. With this they found a way to say that the Kingdom has been taken away from the Jews and be given to the Gentiles. Others were saying that the Law was abolished and now we have a New Covenant which they were using the word Church to promote. It is totally wrong because the children of Israel has been the FIRST CHURCH (ACTS 7:38), we the Gentiles have only joined that Church, the Kingdom of God has no two Churches but one (1Peter 2:9-10).The truth is that there is NO POWER in the Church today because the theologians have created an ALTERNATIVE RELIGION in the form of Christianity while using the name of the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL as a substitute. This has been the reason why there is no UNITY since the days of REFORMATION (John 17).To whosoever wants to listen, please the LAW THAT WAS ABOLISHED FOR THE GENTILES WAS THE CIRCUMICISION SO TO MAKE IT EASY FOR THE GENTILES TO PARTAKE IN THE COURSE OF THE GOSPEL. Someone should read the book of ACTS 15. I am not saying that the Gentiles should go back to LAW, but the idea where everybody is talking about LEGALITY is very WRONG. People do not want to read or study the Bible, and will keep believing everything they were told. Someone should read this text from the book of Ephesians. It was from the same book of the Ephesians that every WRONG DOCTRINES was taken to BIULD “THE SOCIAL GOSPEL” WHICH.WALTER RAUSCHENBUSCH GAVE TO THE BAPTIST IN THE 30S. This Walter Rauschenbusch is s student of a German theologian Albrecht Ritschl. Let me just say, Salvation of the Lord Jesus is based on OBEYING what God says in His Word and has nothing to do with what one says (Luke 6:46)(John 8:31). Here again is what the Apostle Paul wrote regarding the Gentiles` position in the NEW COVENANT which nobody wants to listen to.

    11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ..14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; 15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; 16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow-citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone (Ephesians 2:11-20). It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things (Romans 15:27).

  • Pastor Roger

    yes hebrew’a 10:25 not for saking the asmbley of ourselve’s in the matter that some are, but exort one another and so much the more as we see the day approaching, we are a easy target by our self’s, you don’t have an army of one, we need to stand by each other and uplift each other, for in these last satan is furious, and will stop at nothing to destroy us, and out side the holy spirit we have know power, and some are discredited him every day, trying to say we don’t need him at all or we don’t need him all the time, that’s a lie straight from hell, we need the holy spirit every second and hour of every day, thank you for writing the truth, people want to live the way they want, I have them say to me don’t you think God want’s us to live life in it’s fullest, he want’s you to live your life in his fullness, Christ gave is life for us and when we come to him we are bought with a price, which mean’s you know longer belong to your self you are Christ there for you do what he say’s not what you want, and people want to see what they can get by with, it’s crazy that say’s it in peter itching ear’s like a few don’t preach sin there you don’t get on any one’s toe’s you make them feel good in there sin, and they say you don’t have to confess sin’s you commit after you get saved hog wash the holy spirit convict’s and you know you done wrong that is part of his job, Jesus is seated on the right hand of the father to make intersession for your sin’s, it say’s in Timothy some men’s sin go before them and some men’s sin’s come after them, you better hope your’s go before you that way they are taking care of, I am a pastor I preached on the internet for 8 month’s or more and people try to tell you God is love he won’t punish any one, they need to read the bible there is a judgement side of him to, don’t even have to go to the old test. the book of act’s chapter 5. Annanias and Sofarias fell dead right there for lieing to the holy spirit, now tell me God don’t judge, know you who think this is very unlearned, it’s just so sad the thing’s that the people and some preacher’s are saying, the other day I was called an intolarent koolaid drinking, never mind I don’t say what else I was called over gay marriage, well call me what you want as Long as God call’s me right and on that day he say’s inter into my rest, I won’t go to hell for not preaching the truth, but some are for not listening, in 09 june the 1st Jesus took me up to heaven and showed me 2 cor. 12 the last of that chapter say’s, talk’s about the whoremonger’s, Adultery’s, backbiter’s, drunk’s and so on. and Jesus said to me face to face Roger they think they are ready and they are not now go back and preach with more fire than you ever did before, and I am a holy ghost filled fire preacher all ready, and he said tell the church they are not ready, and there is a lot more I could tell you, just being in his presence you fall on your face as a dead man you know that second that you have committed sin and you know he committed know sin, and he had to say to me fear not stand and read, but he was so bright I couldn’t see and he read it to me the whole chapter the first part was for me and he was to the last part and he had to back off before I could finally read and it was to the part where he was saying there are backbiter’s Adultery’ fornfication, Idol worship and so on in the church, so I will preach the truth know matter what, and God bless you for preaching the truth. pastor Roger

  • ounbbl

    ‘God wants you to be happy’ – a Satanic verse recited by so many Christians, including those on pulpit – selling prosperity gospel, possibility gospel, pentecost-addicted gospel, prohibition-prescription gospel, pagan-syncretic gospel, purpose-driving-programs-and-projects gospel etc. with their well known names unworthy to be put on this page ;-<

    • Sam

      But God does want us to be happy. Prosperity gospel is God trading happiness for believing in him. But that doesn’t mean that he doesn’t also want us to be happy though. Don’t throw the baby with the bathwater.

      • ounbbl

        Where does it say God is there to make us happy? What do you mean by ‘happy’? Is it like ‘Happy are those’ – new age Beatitudes in modern easy reading palatable Bible translations? Well, if you like, be happy. Why not. But why do you need God for you to be happy anyway? For me, happiness/unhappiness is simply a state of our mind in response to external stimulus. Choice is on us. Don’t blame God when unhappy ;-)

        BTW, when I say satanic, it does not mean that Satan lies. He/she/it never lies but truth. What Eve and Adam told was not a lie, but a truth. What Satan does is to deceive us – telling a truth with a poison, like most of who-is-who politicians, giving out all kinds of promises (for kingdom on earth), sugar coated for that matter. Many sermons tastes likewise.

      • JX

        God wants us to be happy but that happiness should not trump what really matters Often the “choice” to be happy can supersede whats really important, such as Family, God, and our own peace.

    • JX

      Referring to the verse “Do what thou wilt” (as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone).

  • mamazee

    Lie: if all members of a family are Christian, there will never be any discord. AND, if there is, and you can’t fix it, God will hate you. Because He cares about families more than He cares about individuals…

  • Pastor B. Gaye Suomie

    haha thank God for that great message, man of God there still lot more of lies that I alone can not complete,
    Listen to one of them : since I accepted the lord as my saviour I am already saved any thing i do now, namely girlfriend, lover, stealing, you name the rest, I am saved. forgetting to know that Faith without work is dead.
    another Lie is God himself know I am human . you are human, meaning that you are ready to live any life. this is why He sent His son to die for your sin, so you don’t need to live in since , runing, work out your salvation.
    lastly my word on happiness for me i need joy unspeakable joy not just happiness, because the crazyman is also happy, likewise the person that taking druge is also happy, criminal is happy doing his hard word killing and stealing.
    you can do anything to be happy but you cannot do any thing to received Joy, this is from God.
    John 10:10 the thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy; I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly ( which has to do with happiness peace joy provision any thing you need )

  • Vincent Aja

    The truth about being happy is an individual`s business, and nobody should be blamed….That is one reason the Bible believing teaching Church matters a lot. The secret here is that when one finds the God`s Truth, the Truth will set the individual free (John 8:32). What does this mean? Happiness, Joy and Peace are for the “Fruit-bearing Christians” (John 15:11)(Galatians 5:22-23). It`s only when we begin to do what God says in His Word; the fulfillment gives the true Happiness, Joy and Peace. “And for those who believed that God is the Father Christmas, and because of Grace, He will be giving everything freely will remain to blame everybody.” Dr. Martin Luther according to the story had wanted the book of James to be removed from the Bible because of what he thought to be contradictory to the Apostle Paul`s teaching that our salvation is by faith alone, and not of work: unlike James who had additionally taught that faith without works is dead (James 2:20). So later in his life when Dr. Luther had begun to see the lifestyles of his followers. He came to realized that the book of James was perfectly right. There is this two things about the Bible. Some people want to live the their lives through the Bible because they have seen the Bible as the historical facts. And some people overwhelmed by intellectualism thought that they can manipulate the Bible by using theory. To the first group, God will be God to them. And to the second groups, may God be merciful to them that the mustard seed like faith will keep them from joining the atheists.

    • Jake Schotter

      Right on!

  • ThinkWeAreOnAdifferentPage

    If God doesn’t want us to be happy, then I don’t want to believe in Him.
    How stupid.

    • Jeremy James

      You’ve got to think above your own understanding. Happiness is cheap compared to what God DOES want for us in peace, joy and wholeness. The world can give you happiness, Our Lord can give us SO much more.

    • JX

      To first seek happiness is such a selfish endeavor compared to deeper work of joy and peace of mind. Both of which then lead to happiness & a much more satisfying version.

  • ogunlowo H.Adeloye

    thank you very much it came at atime that I needed it most(reviving from my lethargy).thanks this is good.May God bless u.some these are what we face when we go for evangelism

  • Jeremy James

    I would add:
    “It’s ok to sin. Everyone does it”.

  • fafah

    I agree with you,God bless you

  • DavaoCityOutreach

    Re. “nice,” there were many times when Jesus & his apostles were not nice at all.
    Re. leading, Jesus commanded the apostles to teach everyone to make disciples.
    Thanks for this posts!

    • Stephen Abbott

      I’m not sure the point was that being ‘nice’ is bad. I suspect it was yet another false attack on Good Works and treating people as we would wish to be treated, things that Jesus actually commands, but modern preachers and folks like the author like to demean and ridicule.

      • R Bell

        “another false attack on Good Works” is a new one, so I don’t even begin to know what it means if it is capitalized. Either way, I am deeply concerned, but that pales in comparison to denying/rejecting the Trinity.

        • Stephen Abbott

          I’m not surprised you have no idea what good works are, since your false Pauline pastor probably never mentions Jesus’ actual teachings – which are the only thing that saves our souls.

          • R Bell


            You avoid what I said with a personal attack and 100% false judgment? At the risk of being misunderstood (and attacked again, falsely), would that be considered a good work?

            Who, and what, is a Pauline pastor? Please tell me where, specifically, you heard and were taught that term?

            So, to be clear, are you saying only good works “saves our soul”? And/or (with this) are you saying that what others call the “finished work” or “all sufficient work” of Jesus on the cross (e.g. paying the full price…”it is finished”) is insufficient?

            Is it that you (and those who believe similarly) out right reject what Paul (and others) wrote, or some of it.

            Do you believe we are truly (still) under law, and must work our way to heaven/salvation?

            If so (or something similar), what must we do (e.g. how much or what kind of good works), and if, when, and how would a person know if they are saved, or not?

            What is the difference between good works and Good Works?

            I genuinely want to know.

          • Jake Schotter

            The original post (R. Bell) mentions a “denying/rejecting the Trinity”. In essence, he is worried about blaspheming the Godhead. As sincere a concern that is, we cannot truly (italicize) blaspheme the Godhead today because we have not seen the signs performed by Jesus. Even though we have God’s Word, we believe but can still deny. Because of having no signs, unlike the Jews (see Matt. 12:22-32), we are only putting our salvation at peril because we still have “the Way” (to salvation).

            The previous comments by Stephen Abbott and R. Bell are ridiculous and outright unacceptable, in my opinion. Both of you are rude (unchristian). Good works alone will not save you. I know several agnostics who are wonderful people. But, since they do not believe and have been baptized, they will not be saved. Our actions, even though baptized, if we are not producing the fruit God wants (see Jn. 15:1-11 and Gal. 5:22-23) we will fall away (and Christians can (see Jms. 5:19-20)).

          • R Bell

            Please, Jake, tell me where, in what way(s) and why, you have judged my 2 comments here to be “ridiculous,” and “outright unacceptable”?

            And please tell me how your condemnation of me as “rude” and “unchristian” is accurate, let alone on par or equated with the other fellow?

            I would say that one of the fruits that God does want is accuracy, especially in judging and condemning others…for whatever that might be worth.

            On another note, I don’t think I follow your comments regarding not being able to blaspheme the Godhead today.

          • Jake Schotter

            I feel that your attacks (both you, R. Bell and Stephen Abbott) are uncharacteristic of Christians. You propose good questions, yet I feel your sarcasm bleeds through too much. Abbott accuses, I assume, unknowingly, and the ridiculousness of “false ‘Pauline pastor'”. Paul would deny that he would be preaching himself, but Christ. A preacher preaching Paul is not really a preacher. Anyways, I’m beating a dead horse.

            To the more important question regarding Scripture: In Matthew 12:22-32, we read of the Jews blaspheming Jesus, which Jesus says is “blaspheming the Holy Spirit [better translated as the power of God]”. The Jews could visibly see a sign so that they would believe, yet they did not. They have denied the visible proof that they could be saved by. If they don’t accept the power of God, what will they believe in? Saying that, today, you cannot blaspheme God because He is not showing signs as Jesus did today. Instead of us not being forgiven, as in the Pharisee’s case, it is only a sign of our hardened hearts refusing to accept Jesus. For more information, I would highly recommend Guy Orbison Jr.’s note on Matthew 12:31-37 in the 2015 Workshop in the Word and the Working in the Word periodical edition in August, 1997.

          • R Bell

            You did not answer my question(s), yet you still stand by your condemnation of me?

            You publicly judged and condemned my comments and me with serious sins as “unchristian,” “rude,” “ridiculous,” attacking, etc, yet you when challenged for specifics you failed to sufficiently answer. I would love a more sufficient explanation, but I would suggest that you can’t, because you are wrong. Perhaps you were merely quick to judge, and/or quick to judge my motives (falsely), and/or quick to lump me in with the problems with the “other guy.” It happens.

            I have plenty of sins, even in my comments to be sure, and am guilty of a lot of things, but when I am publicly maligned and accused I would just ask that it is accurate. I would think you would be exceedingly desirous to go above and beyond to prove my sins…at least with some specifics. Instead you compounded the problem by twice saying you “feel” such and such. Feel? Is that what you are basing charges of sin on? If someone said “I feel Jake…is a serial adulterer… slander…gossip…” then would that suffice? What if someone said, “Jake, I feel your lustful and sinful thoughts bleed through your words in our conversation.”? What?

            Maybe worst of all is that you judged my motives, which is not only dangerous territory, you falsely ascribed to me motives that are not there (and did so on your feelings?). At this point, it is kind of a moot point, it is in your court, and, at this point, your response is for you, not me.

          • jeff

            R Bell,
            Keep up the solid work, brother!
            This person, Jake Schotter, seems to be a judgemental contentious sort, all the while accusing you! As if he is some sort of authoritative arbiter!

            God bless!

          • R Bell

            Maybe of the “contentious sort” but also of the hit-and-run sort?

          • ed

            Why did you personally attack him, and others, and do so in error, but avoid owning up?

  • Joel Oduor Bwana

    The lie that God is just concerned about the motives of our hearts and NOT the actions that result from such motives.

  • Robert Jackson

    God may be real but I certainly hope christians aren’t. Christians are morons

    • Jack Greer

      And Bobby my boy what does that make you.?

  • Deuteronomy 6:4

    The main lie most christians believe is the trinity

    • Stephen Abbott

      You are absolutely right.

      • jeff

        Stephen Abbott,
        Perhaps you should read:
        1. 1 John 5:7
        2. Romans 8
        3. Eph. 1:3-14
        4. 2 Thess. 2:13-14
        5. 1 Peter 1:2
        6. Matthew 28:19
        7. Mark 1:9-11
        8. 2 Cor. 13:14
        9. Rev. 1:4-5
        Also, a PROPER EXEGESIS of “God” in the Old Testament, alludes to a “threeness”.

        God bless!

        • Stephen Abbott

          Jeff, when you start your list with a verse that was blatantly an interpolation inserted into the bible by a trinitarian schemer in the Middle Ages, I discount your opinion as flawed and misinformed. God is ONE, not three. I hope you come to know this before you have to meet that One God in person.

          • jeff

            Stephen Abbott,
            You are incredibly intentionally ignorant.
            Learn some proper hermeneutics and exegesis.
            Use other translations of 1 John 5:7, if you like.
            Your misunderstanding does NOT negate the Truth of The Trinity.

            God bless!

          • Stephen Abbott

            Any translation that includes that inserted verse IS LYING and deceiving believers. And your three-headed deity is a monster, not the One God of Israel. Jesus said, “The Father is GREATER THAN I” (John 14:28.) That ONE VERSE ALONE defeats the trinity concept, and means your Roman Catholic-derived definition of the father, son and holy spirit as “co-equal beings” and “three persons with one essence” is FALSE. You need to stop believing in Roman Nicene fantasies based on man-made Greek philosophy and believe Jesus and the apostles in Jerusalem, who baptized in the name of JESUS alone. God is larger than we can comprehend, but is not ‘a mystery.’ Jesus revealed ALL THINGS about God and left nothing hidden (John 15:15)

          • jeff

            Stephen Abbott,
            Wow!! You are being INCREDIBLY intentionally ignorant!
            1. I am NOT Roman Catholic.
            2. OK! Forget about 1 John 5:7!!
            3. Using PROPER hermeneutics and PROPER exegesis, there is NO BIBLICAL SUPPORT for your IGNORANT statements.

            Learn how to allow SCRIPTURE, to interpret Scripture!
            And NOT your interpretation!
            Then, you will be like blind Bartimaeus. If you allow the Holy Spirit to work in your life and interpret Scripture for you, then you will see The Truth. At this moment, you are blind, and can NOT “hear” as well.

            God bless!

          • ed

            “inserted verse”? what proof do you have? what “translation” do you use, then?

          • jeff

            Very perceptive observations.
            I was thinking some similar questions, in regard to Stephen Abbott’s DEFINITE LACK of understanding of proper hermeneutics and exegesis.

            Keep up the solid work!
            I hope others respond as well.
            I felt it was necessary for me to give an initial FIRM rebuke, to Stephen Abbott’s nonsense.
            But, my desire is that the conversation can begin to take shape, such that he might come to actually “know” WHO God truly is, and the Truth of Holy Scripture.

            God bless!

          • ed

            Well, I guess his avoidance of these questions has helped us to avoid his snarky remarks…

          • jeff

            Yes, I believe Stephen Abbott realized that he had NO accurate Biblical Truth, for him to even continue in this discussion from the perspective of his faulty theology.
            And, he doesn’t appear to desire to engage in logical discourse, so he has apparently removed himself completely from any further discussion.

            Well, ed, keep up the solid work!
            God bless!

          • ed

            Are you a Jehovah Witness?

          • jeff

            It would be very interesting to hear Stephen Abbott’s comments, concerning John Ch. 1.!!! :-)

            God bless!

          • ed

            Yes, I noticed J 1:1 did not come up…yet, but being JW would explain this, and a lot of things. I have not come across too many “regular” Christians (like me) who would so vehemently deny the deity of Christ/Trinity and grace alone.

    • Mitchell

      I suspect you have not read the Bible. The trinity is very true and very real and alluded to as well as implied in the Bible. You can start with genesis 1

    • jeff

      Deuteronomy 6:4,
      Perhaps you should read:
      1. 1 John 5:7
      2. Romans 8
      3. Eph. 1:3-14
      4. 2 Thess. 2:13-14
      5. 1 Peter 1:2
      6. Matthew 28:19
      7. Mark 1:9-11
      8. 2 Cor. 13:14
      9. Rev. 1:4-5
      Also, a PROPER EXEGESIS of “God” in the Old Testament, alludes to a “threeness”.

      God bless!

  • Elsie Bouwman

    The Beattitudes in Matthew 5 repeatedly say “Blessed are”, “Blessed are”, “Blessed are”…Doesn’t blessed mean “happy” ?

    • badge

      No blessed, doesn’t mean happy.

      • Elsie Bouwman

        Just checked the Strong’s Concordance # G3107 makar and it says: supremely blest; by extension fortunate, well off: –blessed, happy(happier). I sure like that word “happier”!!

        • badge

          Ok yes true. But it doesn’t mean because we are blessed means we will go through life always being happy or joyful. Some people believe that once you follow Jesus, you will always be happy.

          • Elsie Bouwman

            Took another look at the beatitudes. Happy are: the poor in spirit; those who mourn, the meek, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, the merciful, the pure in heart, the peacemakers, those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Looking at these people mentioned here, it looks like a special kind of happy that they would understand.

          • Jake Schotter

            Happiness is a product of circumstances. The root, “happ” sounds a lot like happen. This is not a fixed thing whereas joy has to be part of our nature. Jesus is concerned with our disposition – being joyful in spite of earthly troubles. We also have to keep in mind is that these Be-attitudes are to help us be focused on the “things above”.

          • Elsie Bouwman

            Thank you!

          • Doug Knox

            Excellent observation, Elsie. You have caught the deeper meaning of the passage. If “blessed” means only possessing feelings of happiness, it is contradictory to the feelings that Jesus presented, All the Old Testament prophets, for example, grieved the spiritual conditions of their day, but no one would argue that they lacked blessing.

            When my first wife died, I could not be happy. But the comfort I received from the Lord during my grief led to an awareness of blessing that I could not have seen otherwise.


    The “joy” of the Lord is my strength. JOY and PEACE are the gifts of God. Happiness is temporary but joy is all encompassing, lasts longer and is more memorable than fleeting happiness. Being happy for a birth is fleeting, the joy knowing that all are healthy and well is the true celebration.

  • Len Jennings

    There’s many other lies we believe. I don’t know how these 5 were determined or rank in the overall scheme of things. But I could probably list a dozen or more without too much effort. Maybe if we actually read our Bibles, were more attentive in church and stopped falling in with all the cliques we wouldn’t be so foolhardy. I think the media propagates a lot of wrong thinking and untruth as well – no matter your political views. The sad reality is that the Bible warns us that the path to salvation or truth is narrow and yet it is so much more narrow than we want to believe.

    • Jessie

      The author stated at the beginning that the lies listed are according to her. This isn’t a professional list, it’s intended for the author to share her heart and get people thinking. I think it’s great that it got you thinking about other lies Christians believe (it’s also very sad that there are so many.)

  • Stephen Abbott

    Most of these aren’t even close to the lies orthodox Christians believe. It’s telling that Jesus himself doesn’t get a quote anywhere in this article, which isn’t at all shocking, since that’s at the core of the problem with modern Christendom.

  • Dr. T.Haolai

    Another lie which we come across as a christian is that we will be rich materially. God provides our need but to be rich in human standard is not what He promised. Many christian believe that they will be rich as soon as they put their trust in Jesus. God will gives us all our need, not necessarily money !!!
    Another lie is that if you don’t pray also He know your need and He will provide. Since Jesus ask us to pray, we have to pray to get what we want.

  • Jean-Baptiste


  • Matches Malone

    I believe you’ve covered everything in your article, as you talk about the small things. I struggle with dealing with incompetence among my peers. I don’t necessarily know that this is a lie, however, I continue to be their “friends.”

  • David Meseg

    I think that there is a sixth big lie that says reading (studying) the Bible is not necessary. Read Christian magazines, articles, Bible notes, devotionals, Christian books on this and that – but not the Bible itself. When we do this, we don’t understand the necessity to feed ourselves but want to be spoon fed by others and are happy to believe what they believe. Thus, we are left to sway in the wind with no form biblical conviction of our own and change our beliefs in accordance with the latest trend or fashion.

  • festus akin

    The five lies are very interesting and true. However, the fifth one is mixed. God is interested in both our eternal as well as our earthly concerns. In other words He is not just interested in righteousness, faith, holiness (without which no-one will see God), but also in our peace, joy, prosperity, and happiness! I know some anti-prosperity movement will crow at that, but that’s the truth if God’s word. Yet all these are in God’s words, but we shun what we will rather consider to be too good to be true.

    The word “blessed” itself means “happy”, and the author can check how many time God’s word exhorted us to be blessed. Start from Psalm 1:1-3, or the Sermon of the Mount in Mattew 5:1-11, “Blessed are…” Paul exhorted believers to “rejoice!” He listed joy as part of the fruit of the Spirit. David, and Jesus used “blessed” or makarios in Greek to mean happy or blissful. It means that our happiness doesn’t dependent on our circumstances but on Christ. So Christians can and should be happy and not struggle with it. That is a key antidote against depression for believers, that the enemy brings as flaming arrows to our minds. Happiness is not the reason we follow Christ but God desire that we are happy if we follow Christ and obey His words.

  • FestusAkin

    The five lies are very interesting and true. However, the fifth one is mixed. God is interested in both our eternal as well as our earthly concerns. In other words He is not just interested in righteousness, faith, holiness (without which no-one will see God), but also in our peace, joy, prosperity, and happiness! I know some anti-prosperity movement will crow at that, but that’s the truth of God’s word. Yet all these are in God’s words, but we shun what we will rather consider to be too good to be true.

    The word “blessed” itself means “happy”, and the author can check how many time God’s word exhorted us to be blessed. Start from Psalm 1:1-3, or the Sermon of the Mount in Mattew 5:1-11, “Blessed are…” Paul exhorted believers to “rejoice!” He listed joy as part of the fruit of the Spirit. David, and Jesus used “blessed” or makarios in Greek to mean happy or blissful. It means that our happiness doesn’t depend on our circumstances but on Christ. So Christians can and should be happy and not struggle with being happy! That inner joy, is a key antidote against depression for believers, that the enemy brings as flaming arrows to our minds. Happiness is not the reason we follow Christ but God desires that we are happy if we follow Christ and obey His words.

  • Disciple

    How can one who Truly has Jesus Christ feel hopeless and alone and who are we to be accountable to?
    The author is the one who is spreading lies, but obviously, the blind see it as truth. You’re all not alone though, there’s 2.2 billion of you posers.

    The only thing we need is Jesus Christ, everything else is vanity, traditions of men and worldly.
    Wake up people and quit using a book to justify your iniquity.

    Those who believe the authors garbage, Truly aren’t IN Christ Jesus.

    • ed

      Which “Jesus Christ” do you speak of?

      What are His top characteristics?

      How, specifically, do you know about these (where, how) did you learn them?

      How can you tell the difference between what is true or false about these (and Him)?

      • Disciple

        That’s for you to decide Ed. Work out your own salvation. There’s only one Christ Jesus but many anti Christ spirits in multiple bible based religious denominations.
        When you receive power from on High, there’s no doubt who IS Jesus Christ.
        No power, no overcoming sin from that Power = not IN Christ.

        Now go seek Jesus for yourself, or keep holding on to your delusions, the choice is yours.

        • jeff

          Disciple,!!! :-)
          Ha! I see that you are hard at work again! — spouting heresy and illogical nonsense and ramblings of your own mind!
          Wow! You spout illogical nonsense, and then claim yourself as the source for verification!
          You couldn’t even answer ed’s 4 questions, with a logical answer!
          Wow! You are truly hilarious!
          What a jokester!

          By the way, Jim Watson is very accurate with what he wrote in his posts!

          God bless!

    • Jim Watson

      Why am I not surprised that the disciple of Satan, the father of all lies, would find himself right at home in a question about lies that Christians believe?

      For those unfamiliar with Disciple, he believes that the voices in his head are Jesus, that he can lie about anyone he likes without consequence, and that people should trust him at his word even as he curses people who trust in another man.

      He made the unsubstantiated statement that Paul heard voices in his head, and has refused to back down from the lie even as he refuses to cite support for his statement.

      Remember that his basic position is that we cannot trust the divinely inspired writers of the Bible, but we should accept without question the writings of a person who has no problem bending, twisting, or ignoring the truth (by his own admission).

      • Disciple

        There you go folks, satan comes along to quench The Spirit. Here Jim gives a fine example of the lies of his father satan.
        Even though it’s recorded in the scriptures that no one saw or heard what Paul experienced on the road to Damascus, Jim insists that I’m lying.
        Now watch how Jim will twist scripture to fit his lie.

        Thank you Jesus for the Gift of The Holy Spirit, your spirit that you shed that I may have Life.

        • Jim Watson

          This is one of the reasons that you should read the Bible instead of listening to the voices in your head.

          If you read Acts 9:7, the Bible CLEARLY states that the men traveling with him heard the sound or the voice (depending on your translation.

          Once again, Disciple has been caught in a lie that would have been easy to check if he believed in the Bible instead of the voices. There is no twisting of scripture. You can read it for yourself.

          “And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.” KJV

          “The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone.” NIV

          “The men who were traveling with him stood speechless because they heard the voice but saw no one.” NSRV

          ‘The men who traveled with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one.” NASB

          Pick a translation. Read it in the Greek. Then, judge for yourself who has been lying. And, it is not me.

          • Disciple

            Oh, so more people heard voices when there was no one there. Even better, it still proves my point. How about in acts 11:12, when it says that “The Spirit told me” is it referring to the bible? Oh wait, the bible wouldn’t written for another 100 plus years and then if count how the Protestants didn’t agree with the first compilation, it’s much longer.
            In all reality, the bible wasn’t available till the 1600’s and until the twentieth century, most people were illiterate.

            Just so you know people, Jim believes that Jesus Christ is the bible and that Jesus is bound by what has been compiled into what the Protestants believe to be a 66 book canon, but the catholic believe to be a compilation of a 73 book cannon.

            Ah Jim, you make me laugh.

            Watch this people, Jim will perform more of his bible witchcraft for you all.

          • Jim Watson

            I do not believe that Jesus is the Bible. Neither do I believe that the Bible is the Savior. I do believe that the Bible was inspired by almighty God. I believe that when our personal thoughts conflict with what the Bible says, we are in error because the Bible never is.

            What we truthfully know about Jesus, we know from the Bible. Rejecting what the bible says is the same as rejecting the one, true God.

            The books of conflict between the Roman Catholic Church and Christians involves ONLY books of the Old Testament. In that regard, the Roman Catholic Church finds itself in conflict with Judaism.

            In reality (since you want to misuse that word as well), most people in the world are STILL illiterate. And, people who say that the Bible says the exact opposite of what it actually says make that number seem even larger.

            By the way, in case these comments appear to the public again, it should be noted that parts of the Bible have been available since the time of Moses (around 1250 BC – some 28 centuries before you want people to believe it to have been available).

          • Disciple

            That’s not true Jim, Luther did not want the book of James in the bible.
            I said bible and not scriptures, so you can twist all you want, but the bible is a collection of individual scriptures, therefore my comment stands true. The bible wasn’t readily available till the 1600’s

          • Jim Watson

            Luther is not now, nor has he ever been God. God, not Luther (or you) determines what is contained in the Bible. The Bible, in its current form was available no later than 300 AD.

            Therefore, your comment is once again shown to be false. You really should stop trying to show everyone that your voices have no idea what they are talking about and are, therefore, not our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

          • Disciple

            Lying again Jim. The fact is that Constantine paid those involved in the Nicean council to determine what is contained in the bible.
            Therefore, your comment is once again shown to be false, not to mention that you lied when you stated that only the Old Testament was in question when Protestant decided to make up their own bible.

          • Jim Watson

            You spout a piece of irrelevant information and then declare my statement to be false? Wow! You seem to be slipping deeper and deeper all the time.

            Your statement indicates that you KNOW that the Bible was available in 300 AD because you knew the event to which I had referred. Therefore, you KNEW that your statement that the Bible was not available until the 1600s was a lie when you made that statement.

            Why should anyone believe anything said by a person who has repeatedly shown that he willfully lies to make his points appear to have validity?

          • Geoff

            Jim. You cannot argue with such a deluded individual. Ignore him. His doctrine is evil heresy and his profane language betrays him.

          • Jim Watson

            My intent is not to argue with him. My intent is to allow others to see the depths of his lies. I am not at all sure that he is deluded. In fact, there is little evidence that he actually believes anything that he says.

            And, it is important that people not be deceived by him.

          • Disciple

            What about acts 22: 9 Jim? It contradicts your earlier quote, why not quote me acts 22:9? Could it be cause it doesn’t agree with you point of view? Lmao, only a lost fool would believe the bible is the final authority.

          • Jim Watson

            Once again, Acts 22:9 CLEARLY states that they heard the voice even though they did not understand what it said. There is no conflict. But, it does conflict with your false assertion that no one heard the voice.

          • Disciple

            Lying again Jim, it says ” and they that were with me saw indeed the light, and we’re afraid, but they heard not the voice od him that spake to me”
            Lmao, ok Jim, now do your spin, justify to yourself, oops, I mean, explain this one off.
            Myself Jim, I don’t care what the bible has to say, my faith is IN Jesus Christ and i don’t need some book or some man to prove Jesus is indeed God

          • Disciple

            Holmans “did not hear the voice”

            Aramaic “did not hear the voice”

            Jubilee “did not hear the voice”

            ASV “heard not the voice”

            Darby “heard not the voice”

            Erv same

            Webster’s same



            Young’s “heard not of him who is speaking”

          • Jim Watson

            I love it. You have gone from no bible to KJV ONLY all in one evening.

            Just so you know, the word “heard” also means “understand”.

            And, in translations more word-for-word than the KJV, the word is translated as “understand”.

          • Disciple

            Did you notice Jim how Jesus had me respond to your rebuttal before you answered?

          • Jim Watson

            I noticed that you listed versions of the Bible that I have never seen. I noticed that your response was incomplete. And, I noticed that your response did not respond to what I wrote.

            Your Jesus isn’t very good, is he?

          • Disciple

            Jim, it’s hard to see stuff when you have your head shoved in books, your pastors azz and also shoved up your own azz, how Jeff manages to get his head up there also is beyond me.

            Just so you know, that comment is from me.

            I did respond to your comment, you have your own interpretations to suit your delusions and justify yourself. It proves my point of your bible witchcraft.

            Twisty Jim, the faithless book worshipper. Pretty soon you’ll have to learn Cantoneese so you can find other definitions to suit your beliefs.
            I’ll just keep following and honoring Jesus Christ.

            Thank you Jesus Christ for your gift of The Holy Spirit. I was living life my own way, but you had mercy on me, revealed Yourself to me and gave me a new heart.
            Thank Jesus for having mercy on a no good sinner like me, choosing me and giving me the GIfT of salvation. I pray you keep me on the narrow path and not join the broad roader and nominal christians and all their many doctrins and delusions. All i want is you Master Jesus, to do The will of The Father.
            Than you Jesus.

          • Jim Watson

            Anyone who can read (and maybe that is your problem with the Bible) can clearly see the incomplete nature of your response.

            I am not sure who you are really praying to, but it is fairly obvious that you ARE living life your own way.

          • Disciple

            Thank you Jesus for setting me free, free from addictions and my sins, free from the lies that most bible worshipping christians believe.
            Thank you Holy Father for the revelation of Jesus Christ, for drawing me to The Way and The Truth and The Life.
            Thank you Jesus for your grace that You have bestowed upon me.


          • Jim Watson

            Luke 18:9-14

          • jeff

            Disciple,!!! :-)
            (That name has to be used very loosely!!!)
            I see you are still quoting yourself, and making up your own religion!!!
            And you appear to be your only member!
            Ha! You are a funny guy!
            And, your TOTAL IGNORANCE, does NOT negate The Truth AND Authority, of Holy Scripture!

            God bless!

          • Steve McCall

            Without the Bible, you cannot know that Jesus is indeed God. The Bible reveals the one true God and His only begotten Son. If you read John 1 you find out the Jesus is the Word, therefore you cannot deny the authority of the Bible and claim to believe in Jesus.

      • Disciple

        Also notice how Jim is compelled to capitalize the s in his fathers name. Jim wouldn’t want to disrespect his father.

        • Jim Watson

          Not my father. But, in English, we capitalize proper nouns. I guess that is one more thing we can add to the list of things that don’t apply to you.

      • jeff

        Jim Watson,!! :-)
        Great to see you here, brother!!
        And, very well stated, regarding the totally illogical ramblings of “Disciple”!

        God bless!

    • Gregory

      Did the author not say in his opinion, be careful my friend does the bible not say that God will judge us and show us mercy in the manner witch we judge and show mercy, Something too ponder upon maybe, but thats just my opinion.

    • Gregory

      Greetings all i can say is Does the bible not say somewhere that the measure by how we judge and so mercy will be shown to us, does the bible not say that hope faith and love are key yet love is of the highest order and something about the tongue blessing and cursing sharper than a two edged sword, cause you say that 2.2 billion are wrong you are right i think you may just get into trouble with GOD unless you are perfect like Christ i cannot judge you, And to all the people that are judging you harshly MAYBE you guys are in error too.

  • Randy Liewicki

    You know at first I was sceptical of the beginnings of the article, but overall I would now say-very good piece.

  • Andrew Leong S C

    Dear Nicole, it would be great if you could include scriptural references for each of your thoughts on “Lies Christians Believe.” This will convince readers of the significance of God’s word in our daily lives. After all, the first commandment to every king in Israel is: And when he sits on the throne of his kingdom, he shall write for himself in a book a copy of this law, approved by the Levitical priests. And it shall be with him, and he shall read in it all the days of his life, that he may learn to fear the Lord his God by keeping all the words of this law and these statutes, and doing them, Deut 17:18-19

  • HisGirl

    Good list! One I’d add would be “X-bad-thing (such as abuse) only happens in *those* churches, not in ‘good’ ones like ours. We are good Christians, therefore we are immune.” Where there are sheep, and especially vulnerable lambs, the wolves will hunt, and a church — or any Christian organization — that ignores that possibility will create the perfect environment for abuse to flourish. And, sadly, when harmful sin occurs, the church/organization is often more invested in image-management than in helping the victim(s) and protecting the flock from further harm.

  • Shawn Chadwick

    I agree, except for number 5. Joy is our strength and a choice. Father God is also a perfect Father, and what kind of Father is not interested in the joy of their child. I can choose to be miserable in tribulation or to be joyful. To be honnest, to be joyful is often times killing the flesh more then be miserable is; thats why David said he brought a sacrafice of joy to the Lord. And to wrap it all up, according to Jesus, one third of the Kingdom of God is Joy in the Holy Spirit. Is there hard times, yes, but I choose joy in serving Him then being miserable.

    • christoph

      Joy and Happiness are different topics. So keep on the topic of #5

  • potato

    Heard the line “lies are half-rooted in the truth.”

    But something I always believed was that God won’t give us more than we can handle, but that’s just not true.
    He can and will give us more than what we can handle because it’s going to push us to Him and His love.

  • Jason Cheeseman

    I trust the other four, but not #1. Matthew 18:20.

    Many churches, as per the modern definition, are buildings for the business of collecting tithes from worshipers. It is a human-made thing and is therefore susceptible to error and corruption. Additionally, finding a church that aligns perfectly with scriptural teaching, because of this, is difficult nigh on to impossible. Plus, there are just so many to choose from!

    • John Admire

      You have fallen for the trap of the Western “Church”. You quoted what Jesus said but look, his “congregation” was him and 12 other, unique, and diverse men. As a THE CHURCH we are all part of the Body of Christ. No part of your body can survive on its own. Find a Discipleship group, an accountability buddy, a place where you can grow and thrive. That is THE CHURCH.

  • evamcinnis

    to many sheep in wolves clothing .

  • Jaezl

    God wants us to happy by being holy


  • Bob Leone

    This is why I do not let other people’s opinions influence my relationship with God.

  • Ray Russell

    “Discernment” (in Christian contexts) perception in the absence of judgment with a view to obtaining spiritual direction and understanding.

    “Without providing for a time of healing and discernment, there will be no hope
    of living through this present moment without a shattering of our common
    life”. Knowing that secular “hope” is not the same as the believers “Hope” and so it is with many other same spell words. Discernment is very important when denominations become or are parasitic.

  • Dominic Woods

    Written by one who believes lies…

    • RJ

      Not sure what your point is other than to call the bride of Christ a harlot. Has the western church become too much a part of the culture? Yes and no. Some have, others have not. Some seminaries are compromised, others are not.

      I would warn you, if you find the perfect church, you should stay away, because you will wreck it. So would I.

  • Richard UK

    When I read 4 and 5 together, there is a dissonance

    On 5, I agree it is not God’s primary aim to give us lots of chocolate or nice homes or clothes for us to enjoy. He warns about idolatry, putting gifts above the Giver. (Even when we say ‘thank you’ we are still just thanking the giver because of the gifts)

    Instead, in 5, you suggest that He is more concerned with our holiness, with the implication that that is what we should work on and be concerned about (I prefer Christlike-ness – we are already holy in the sense of set apart)

    But in 4 you have already warned about not acting in our own strength

    So we have a strong natural desire to enjoy life, and (let’s face it) a weak desire to be obedient. So we apparently have to grit our teeth ‘by the power of the Holy Spirit’ to ensure that the weak desire is boosted to be greater than the other desire. But no.4 gives no real ‘mechanics’ for this other than ‘acting in, with or by the power of the Holy Spirit. But what does this actually look like? That is why no.5 is so difficult.

    The solution is in fact back to no.5, with a ‘Yes’ to happiness. God does want to give us enjoyment and pleasure, but it is the pleasure of knowing Him (not eating chocolate). He wants us to enjoy Him and His Presence now and forever. Knowing God in the present is a much more powerful motivation than being grateful for something in the past. Indeed it is more than a motivation (for the old Adam), it is change within the new man. Indeed it is by that means that the Holy Spirit, not we, works Christlike-ness in us.

    There are no doubt many ‘easy believists’ in the US but they are probably reacting against the joylessness of the ‘obedience’ or ‘holiness’ movement, to the latters’ continuing annoyance. They don’t even find the holiness of the holiness movement that impressive since it mainly concentrates on avoiding major sins, rather spilling out one’s life for others

    There are two basic outlooks, either ‘obedience leads to intimacy’ or ‘intimacy leads to obedience’. Jonathan Edwards essentially advocated the latter; I don’t know why he has been so thoroughly ditched and his successors labeled as antinomian.

  • sinner saved by grace

    John 14:6. Jeremiah 29:13. Nuff said

  • Vincent Lavello

    Although I probably top the list of the least happy if Christians I have also known that it is ungodly – far from godliness is unhappiness.
    So in light of the beatitudes in Matthew 5 and Luke 6 I completely disagree with the last point. Blessed means HAPPY!

  • Kaypohchee

    The biggest lie we believe in is that God is a Blessings-dispensing ATM machine. We even believe that “blessings” come from God, so much so that Satan has such a field day giving blessings that we believe he is God. Christians should keep Hab3:17-18 always in view “KJV 17 Although the fig tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no meat; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls: 18 Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will joy in the God of my salvation.”
    So I disagree with Vincent. Blessed does not mean happy. We have to learn to “joy” in God rather than to be happy to receive blessings. Then we would not be conned by Satan with blessings because in our limited view we don’t know if a blessing is a blessing. In fact Christians should not so lightly pray for blessings but pray to be found in God. We have God; why would we want blessings instead?
    Nicolle is spot on with No. 5. Only wished she had moved it to number 1.

  • RJ

    I would modify 5 a little. I would say it’s a lie that God wants to preserve us from suffering. Or, perhaps it is a lie that God wants us to be comfortable. Another option would be that God wants us to be happy because of our circumstances.

    The problem with saying God does not want us to be happy is that happiness and joy are linked, though they are not synonyms. Joy is part of the fruit of the Spirit.

    That’s just my thought. I understand what the author is saying, but would state it in a way that makes it more clear.

  • TBK Revolution

    Christianity, like so many other religions, is a lie in itself.

  • Mary Jean Adams

    I struggle with #5. I am fundamentally a happy person. I’ve had my share of troubles, but I’ve never let them hold me down for long. It’s not that they aren’t hugely challenge, e.g., several miscarriages and have three parents right now with Alzheimers. So many of my fellow Christians seem to delight in being unhappy. I’m not an expert, but I don’t know that there’s anything in the Bible that says I can’t need Jesus and still be happy at the same time.

  • Anastasya Laverdiere

    Yeah Mary Jean I would have to agree with you! I like what this writer says about “being happy” as a byproduct of “following Jesus with an obedient heart”! After all joy is a fruit of His Spirit within us and the “joy of the Lord is our strength!” Neh.8:10. We need true joy on the inside which produces happiness no matter what we go through which you exemplify by your testimony here! God bless in all you do !
    Anastasya Laverdiere

    • Mary Jean Adams

      Good response. And way to diplomatically tell me I probably didn’t read closely enough. :-)

  • Mary Jean Adams

    I was thinking more about #1. (I warned the women in my new small group Bible study that I am an ENTJ. I should probably share that same warning here.) Anyway, I am a relatively new Christian (of any real intent) and an Evangelical. Being a Christian without going to church may be like going into battle with no weapons and no comrades at your side. In other words, you’re probably going to lose to the armies of darkness, but you can still do it. It’s not necessary for salvation as I understand it.

    I love all the Internet options these days, too. Yes, you have to be careful, but when don’t you on the net? The Internet offers a plethora of options for continuing my study throughout the week, not just in church on Sunday. Plus, if I’m having one of those days on Sunday, I don’t have to Go to church to go to church, if you know what I mean.

  • Anastasya Laverdiere

    Haha Mary Jean certainly wasn’t intending that! You make a good point for #1! I am a very strong believer in the need for a real,physical group of people to fellowship with and be challenged by. That being said I’m writing this at 6:15 and our evening service started at 6 – I’m not going tonight as God and I are going to work on some things personally:) wouldn’t want to make it habit though. Like you said, disconnecting from a church family all together leaves us without “comrades” and “weapons” for the war on our souls in the world. Blessings friend May God lead you in all things!

    • Mary Jean Adams

      I hope you and He got things worked out. :-) One of the things I love about my church (and many others these days) is that I can attend online. There are days when I just don’t feel like it, but by 5-10 min in (OK, that varies by pastor) I’m usually back to my old self. Or perhaps I should say my “new self.”

  • Katharine

    Happiness depends on what happens.
    Contentment is required.
    Joy is a gift from, and a fruit of being in, Christ.

    However, I think the biggest lie is that in order to forgive, we have to be okay with the sin, forget about it, and trust the forgiven one. LIE.

  • Badmus

    We sometimes feel God is too slow to answer our prayers so we tend to stray away in order to get help elsewhere; but its a lie of the Devil, God is always on time, he is never too late.


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